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Alright. My name is Chris

I've been into the mpg scene for quite a while, tried a few things, but nothing hardcore. This summer I am going to be doing some major testing and mods etc in terms of everything but especially aero mods.

I have a '95 Geo metro 1.0L 5 spd

Hope there's lots of good info here - it looks like there is!!

Chris

Hey Chris!

Good to have more Metro people here. I think in the long run you Metro guys will always win compared to us Honda guys.

Anyway, what type of stuff have you tried before?

yes, chris - welcome.

matt, i suppose my master plan is becoming clear now: an army of suzukiclones taking over the hondas! (insert evil laugh here.)

yeah, and Me and diamondlarry are the lowly saturn owners.

yes, chris - welcome.

matt, i suppose my master plan is becoming clear now: an army of suzukiclones taking over the hondas! (insert evil laugh here.)

And now you see my master plan. I'm rooting for a Metro/Civic Hybrid car.

http://www.ctgilles.net/images/pictars/dr.evil_one_miliion_dollars.jpg

drat. see, that's why i'm no good at chess and card games. never looking past my next move...

I'm the only loser with the nissan.

I'm the only loser with the nissan.

That's a good way of putting it.

I'm part of the Great Crowd or however the Jehovah's Witnesses put it that just won't quite make it into heaven when the judgement comes (I dwive a honda that dun run quite right, I think, it made a smell or I am just imagining it or it is electrical tape and not an issue, we shall see).

(Dr. Evil pic)

ROTFLMAO! "Everthing is going to plan. Bwahahaha!"

RH77

Haha ,yeah...I was referred by Darin (metrompg).

He told me to come here, I believe so I checked it out. I've foudn some good info here, definitely. But I haven't even started to do searches through the archives or anything. Been very busy lately. As of now, what have I done.... Hmmmm...

I've...bought a metro? LoL This is my second metro. First being a '91 chev. sprint with a 3 cyl as well. It ran so good I kept the drivetrain for a spare. So, basically I'm just starting out. I've been looking into this kind of stuff for years now, just not much experimentation. I practice efficient driving.

At one point I had a hydrogen booster in my old car. It only lasted a couple of months because I took it out, but it definitely worked. I'm working on an improved unit as we speak. (This area I've been working with for many years now).

I just recently put acetone in the tank to try it out. I want to prove or disprove for myself, since there's lots of conflicting information.

My future plans: mostly aerodynamic, with a hydrogen booster.

Chris

What kinda improvement did you see from the h2, how'd it affect the engine structure and all that? You'll get hounded here about that from now on, I swear it.

Hounded.....hmmmmm...

With inquisitions? or....for even mentioning it?!? LoL

I know some people dont agree with it, and can't understand it, because mathematically it doesn't make sense. But not everything is about just math on paper.

I have some very good sites that explain why it does work, etc

Excuse my terrible documentation and accuracy...

When I tried it, it was almost 2 years ago. Again, I was not quite into mpg calcs yet, but just into the booster. I didn't have any exact numbers, which I do regret now, but I do have concrete proof for myself. In my older sprint I never got more than about 520 km per tank. I usually got just "up to" 500, and rarely if I ran it real dry I would get about 520. Well, the first only long test I did with the booster, I did get over 600 km on the tank. Now, as I said I never saw a number anywhere near there. (I know...just admitting to this will probably start me off bad here...prove it, etc...blahblah) But, for myself this is proof enough. Again, I am making one to test further and verify my mileage (because quite honestly I don't understand or believe it myself). So we'll see. I'll verify myself. But personally, 25% or so (slightly less) seems way too much.

*please don't be too mean to me, people* *cringes*

;-)

Anyway, hope to share more later!

Edit: Sorry...as for how did it affect the engine...Well, as I said it wasn't on long enough to do any investigation. However, if you use the right materials, etc it doesn't have any output except H and O - no chemicals, or anything. And those are fine because they're in such small amounts that it just assists in proper combustion, not fully run on it by any means.

I actually meant hounded in the sense of tell us exactly what you did. This seems like a big thing for a lot of people if it can be DIY'd and works.

No worries from me, at least.

It would be cool if you can post your experience and your current Hydrogen plans in the hydrogen-injection forum. It still seems to be a cool idea, assuming it actually works.

From the sounds of it you had a working unit. Why did you remove it if it worked?

I've found that this place is great because it isn't all about cars. It's about finding people that have the same interests as you. I havn't made a modification on my car in a while now, but at least I can read about other people's modifications and I can converse with people who think like me. After all, that's what a "community" is, isn't it?

Ahhh, I see....

Well, it definitely is a DIY. It's so simple. The hard part is making an efficient unit. There's a lot of specs and tolerances to consider in design. As I said, I have one in the works currently, which is going to be very efficient, and also a DIY thing requiring no special tools. But I would like to test it before documenting in detail and showing how to do it. If it doesn't work, I don't want to waste people's time. If it does work, I will gladly share both the project and the accurate mpg changes, etc.

The reason I remove it was because it was of poor construction, and I couldn't get the electrodes to stay in there. They kept getting eaten away, and it was more of a problem than anything else. (also, winter came and I never put it in the next season).

Sorry, one other thing I tried was a PCV jar. Anyone hear of it?

I based it on the one in production (forget the name right now). But Again, I did it too close to winter. I didn't have time to look after it. It ended up filling up, and freezing. Because there was no place for the PCV pressures to go, it blew out my cam seal. I had to push it back in with a couple knives. It did last for the rest of the car like that, and again I never got that unit back on. It is sitting in my basement, however