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Hi there-

Accord hybrid driver here, longtime poster @ GH and cleanmpg. Nice to see some familiar names here too!

Hi there!

You came in with the big site change, it's going to take some getting used to for me, :p

How is the accord hybrid? Worth the extra buck?

Hi there!

You came in with the big site change, it's going to take some getting used to for me, :p

How is the accord hybrid? Worth the extra buck?

extra buck, ROFL. The car is 30k.
It gets 25/34 which is basically a 4 cylender accord. The only difference is the hybrid is quicker. I had a chance to drive, it was good. I also had a chance to test drive the 07 camry. It's 22/31, which is almost the same mpg but it's quicker, cheaper, and looks really good. There is no way it gets 29/37 like they stated because the next year they changed the numbers to 25/34, and the only thing they changed was the rear styling. Sorry to shoot you down like that but the accord hybrid was the worst hybrid I have ever seen.

Welcome to gassavers

welcome, gonavy.

looks like you somehow came in through the peanut gallery instead of the main entrance! ;)

welcome to gassavers. we are all really awesome here! so youll fit right in.extra buck, ROFL. The car is 30k.
It gets 25/34 which is basically a 4 cylender accord. The only difference is the hybrid is quicker. I had a chance to drive, it was good. I also had a chance to test drive the 07 camry. It's 22/31, which is almost the same mpg but it's quicker, cheaper, and looks really good. There is no way it gets 29/37 like they stated because the next year they changed the numbers to 25/34, and the only thing they changed was the rear styling. Sorry to shoot you down like that but the accord hybrid was the worst hybrid I have ever seen.but honda > toyota.

welcome to gassavers. we are all really awesome here! so youll fit right in.but honda > toyota.

but $23,000, low 14 second car, reliable as hell, manumatic 6 speed or auto 6 speed > $30000 car, not as reliable, might need a battery pack change, high 14's/low 15's car, auto only 5 speed

Thanks for the welcome, mostly?

extra buck, ROFL. The car is 30k.
It gets 25/34 which is basically a 4 cylender accord. The only difference is the hybrid is quicker. I had a chance to drive, it was good. I also had a chance to test drive the 07 camry. It's 22/31, which is almost the same mpg but it's quicker, cheaper, and looks really good. There is no way it gets 29/37 like they stated because the next year they changed the numbers to 25/34, and the only thing they changed was the rear styling. Sorry to shoot you down like that but the accord hybrid was the worst hybrid I have ever seen.

Welcome to gassavers

To each their own. I thought the site was about sving gas no matter what you drive. If I want this garbage I'll stay at GH.

I love my HAH. Before attacking, it might be worthwhile to feel me out first. I am forever upset that Honda could not put IMA on the I4 version in its current incarnation, and I think Honda royally screwed the marketing (such as it was) for it. I intend to shift to a Fusion as soon as they are available.

And I paid $27.5; exactly what I was able/willing to pay for whatever I was going to buy. At any rate, I am getting far better mileage than I would be in any other car I would've bought. It was time to reward myself with something larger and nicer to drive than a Cavalier that I had been in for 10 trusty years.

I refer you to my tank logs on GH:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/car/859.html

I drive an 05, and I regularly turn in 500+ mile tanks at over 37mpg. Try that in any other vehicle its size built at the time. No FASing or anything exotic. The HAH is a highway beast, which perfectly matches 80% of my driving.

Its pointless to say a particular car won't hit its EPA- we all know the exact problems with the test, and why hybrids are particularly acutely affected. Don't try to pull a blanket argument over.

The 06 got downscoped because the added coupla hundred # curb weight pushed it into the next intertia category for the EPA dyno settings. It matches the 05 in real life, however.

Do some research before coming at a new member with all barrels blazing. Especially when they provoked nothing.

Do some research before coming at a new member with all barrels blazing. Especially when they provoked nothing.

I like you :)

My boss actually owns an accord hybrid, and he loves it. Sure, it's not a Honda Insight, but not everyone wants a tiny microcar as their daily driver.

From where I sit those Accords are NIIICE! Luxury to the max. Maybe I'm also just comparing them to the 1988 Accords I see in the junkyard. How was THAT ever considered luxury?

Anyway, welcome to the site. Tell your friends, your family, etc. etc.

Just FYI, I'm going to finish up the gaslog feature soon on this site. We had a working one here until recently when the site changed servers/software last night. I'm toying with the idea of adding a function to import your tanklog from GH or other sites. Stay tuned.

he was coming back at me because i dont worship toyota :P i dont think he meant to attack you. he tried pushing the toyota argument on my first post as well, but i didnt want to offend him before so i didnt respond. compaq: i am just poking fun :)

but $23,000, low 14 second car, reliable as hell, manumatic 6 speed or auto 6 speed > $30000 car, not as reliable, might need a battery pack change, high 14's/low 15's car, auto only 5 speedi dont care if its manumatic or auto, its still no dsg, smgII, or stick so it still sucks.

your cost is inflated as pointed out by our military man but still, you get what you pay for. to say honda isnt as reliable as toyota is like arguing that milano red is more red than candy apple red.

slow down before you start establishing which is better in the quarter mile, such a small difference in ets can totally be offset by the driver.

you might be right about the battery pack change, but thats still 'might', not a certainty.

now for the pros on the honda that are over looked. ive driven the new camry as a rental car and i was sorely disappointed with its handling ability. under normal driving the wheels were ready to spin while turning. this was very upsetting. now i havent driven the accord hybrid however i have been in a good amount of the newer accords and the handling seemed about average to me.

dont misunderstand me though, i still regard toyota as a major industry leader and if honda didnt exist i would be supporting toyota much more fully, but from my experience with the camry and celica i decided honda comes out on top. if i sound condescending it is unintentional. i just wish to correct some a bias in the nicest way possible.

Thanks for the welcome, mostly?



To each their own. I thought the site was about sving gas no matter what you drive. If I want this garbage I'll stay at GH.

I love my HAH. Before attacking, it might be worthwhile to feel me out first. I am forever upset that Honda could not put IMA on the I4 version in its current incarnation, and I think Honda royally screwed the marketing (such as it was) for it. I intend to shift to a Fusion as soon as they are available.

And I paid $27.5; exactly what I was able/willing to pay for whatever I was going to buy. At any rate, I am getting far better mileage than I would be in any other car I would've bought. It was time to reward myself with something larger and nicer to drive than a Cavalier that I had been in for 10 trusty years.

I refer you to my tank logs on GH:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/car/859.html

I drive an 05, and I regularly turn in 500+ mile tanks at over 37mpg. Try that in any other vehicle its size built at the time. No FASing or anything exotic. The HAH is a highway beast, which perfectly matches 80% of my driving.

Its pointless to say a particular car won't hit its EPA- we all know the exact problems with the test, and why hybrids are particularly acutely affected. Don't try to pull a blanket argument over.

The 06 got downscoped because the added coupla hundred # curb weight pushed it into the next intertia category for the EPA dyno settings. It matches the 05 in real life, however.

Do some research before coming at a new member with all barrels blazing. Especially when they provoked nothing.

I did my research about it. As a matter of fact the dealer 10 miles from my house sold them for 26.5k
If I knew you wanted the I4 accord hybrid I wouldn't have critizied you. The 05 accord is a great car. My dad own the 05 accord 4 cylender. I've driven it on 2 occasions. It has power all over the rpm board. Due to my car's Iron block engine and a bad match up of gears my power only starts at 1700rpm.

I did my research about it. As a matter of fact the dealer 10 miles from my house sold them for 26.5k
If I knew you wanted the I4 accord hybrid I wouldn't have critizied you. The 05 accord is a great car. My dad own the 05 accord 4 cylender. I've driven it on 2 occasions. It has power all over the rpm board. Due to my car's Iron block engine and a bad match up of gears my power only starts at 1700rpm.

To be fair, I doubt he gives much of a flying **** about the power band on his car.

I think as much as most people on this site care about their power band they care about moving it much lower and in a much more concentrated sense than a normal car would have.

****, I'm eliminating all power over 2500, and I'm happy with that, and if I wanted to drive a piece of crap that got 20mpg I'd hop in my gramma's cop car with a 5.6 V8 and go **** some people up, and still get 22mpg like I did last summer before I even knew how to drive efficiently.

****, I'm eliminating all power over 2500, and I'm happy with that, and if I wanted to drive a piece of crap that got 20mpg I'd hop in my gramma's cop car with a 5.6 V8 and go **** some people up, and still get 22mpg like I did last summer before I even knew how to drive efficiently.

Yeah, what is sad about Texas, is that 20 mpg is good. Everybody drives trucks, and it make me want to hit them because I never see any of them hauling anything around.


Welcome to the boards gonavy. The Accord Hybrid is a great vehicle! Too bad it isn't selling better. It just goes to show you that people buying hybrids have also want to make a statement (aka Prius)...But the Accord Hybrid looks just like any other Accord on the road. If I had a clap hands smiley I'd use it. The FE battle (Toyota vs Honda) goes to....Honda, easy...sorry compaq

I did my research about it. As a matter of fact the dealer 10 miles from my house sold them for 26.5k
If I knew you wanted the I4 accord hybrid I wouldn't have critizied you.

Compaq,
Why would you criticize anyone when all he said was, hi, glad to be here and this is what I drive?

Welcome gonavy! It's good to see you here despite whatever else you may have heard. If your posts here are half as good as they are at cleanMPG, were in for a treat! Please stick around.

thanks :o

The internet is a very large place and there's room for all of us, even in one site. Those who shoot from the hip tend to miss the target more often than not, and end up with nothing left for backup. Its a wonderful self-regulatory mechanism.

thanks :o

The internet is a very large place and there's room for all of us, even in one site. Those who shoot from the hip tend to miss the target more often than not, and end up with nothing left for backup. Its a wonderful self-regulatory mechanism.

Unless your butch or sundance, :p

I love the accord hybrid, so there, I will encourage my mom to get one if I can't shove her in an insight or prius, but hell, she prolly won't buy another car since she got the camry new in 93, it'll be another 10 years I guess, who knows what we'll have then.

better push fast if you want her in an insight! the end of the (production) line is fast approaching.

then again, by the time she's actually ready to buy her next car, honda's dedicated hybrid sedan model (a la prius) should be available.

thanks :o

The internet is a very large place and there's room for all of us, even in one site. Those who shoot from the hip tend to miss the target more often than not, and end up with nothing left for backup. Its a wonderful self-regulatory mechanism.


I don't know where I shoot from but I am able to hit a target from 30 feet away 95% of the time.

Gonavy sorry I went overboard. I'm not saying you made a bad purchase or anything like that. It's just that it costs $30k MSRP price, which is kinda of a rip off. They should of definetly made the I4 a hybrid.

Hey GONAVY don't let the kids get to you - they are just frustrated by low gas mileage and lack of money to do something about it in a big way so they struggle to make little improvements within their budgets. Then I come along with a Scion xB and get over 40mpg average and it's not even a hybrid!

Wow, what a interesting hello thread. Welcome. Look forward to your knowledge in the FE game. Were you at the Academy?

I think as much as most people on this site care about their power band they care about moving it much lower and in a much more concentrated sense than a normal car would have. uh... what?

uh... what?


You're not most, I think only you and compaq are seriously worried about power band, but at least you've conditioned your build, or al least what you've told me about it, to still be able to get 40mpg.

powerband has a lot to do with fuel economy. By repositioning the powerband to 1000-2500rpm you will get more torque there and have to use less fuel.

If you look carefully go navy my critism was in response to SVOboy's response. I didn't attack you personally, I just stated the facts. You blew this out of proportion by complaining, especially in Cleanmpg.com

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821

I did my research about it. As a matter of fact the dealer 10 miles from my house sold them for 26.5k
If I knew you wanted the I4 accord hybrid I wouldn't have critizied you.

OK so you have admitted that you criticized someone. From the quote above, that criticism must have been aimed at Gonavy because as far as I know, SVOboy has expressed no interest in buying an Accord Hybrid.

But regardless of who your criticism was aimed at, please don't forget why we are here.... to help others get better FE, regardless of what vehicle they own.

OK so you have admitted that you criticized someone. From the quote above, that criticism must have been aimed at Gonavy because as far as I know, SVOboy has expressed no interest in buying an Accord Hybrid.

But regardless of who your criticism was aimed at, please don't forget why we are here.... to help others get better FE, regardless of what vehicle they own.

I know he's here to get better FE, we are all here for the same goal. The subject wasn't that his car gets bad mileage, the subject was that it's overpriced and uses a v6

I don't blame him, I blame Honda.

I don't blame him, I blame Honda.even though the honda gets better mpg than the precious camry:p

the facts you stated were refuted.... care to address that?

even though the honda gets better mpg than the precious camry:p

the facts you stated were refuted.... care to address that?

Are you serious??? I'll still take the camry!!!!!!!!!
Pump up the tires, do some weight reduction and go easy on it and it will get 25 city/35 freeway, maybe even more.

The car has potential. Did you know the IS350 uses the same exact engine but the compression is raised and it has direct injection. A 30mpg car that's high 13's, a lot of potential.

Are you serious??? I'll still take the camry!!!!!!!!!
Pump up the tires, do some weight reduction and go easy on it and it will get 25 city/35 freeway, maybe even more.did it look like i was joking? i dont understand. you can do the same thing to the accord and get more. circle argument? you still havent gotten back to the points addressed.

why bother with a car that gets 30mpg and only high 13s. there are cars that get 30mpg highway and run mid-low 12s.

also complaining isnt the word i would use to describe that post.

did it look like i was joking? i dont understand. you can do the same thing to the accord and get more. circle argument? you still havent gotten back to the points addressed.

why bother with a car that gets 30mpg and only high 13s. there are cars that get 30mpg highway and run mid-low 12s.

also complaining isnt the word i would use to describe that post.

yeah 30mpg highway and 15mpg street. I drive mostly street. You can't do the same thing to the accord. The hybrid system only makes it accelarate 5.8 sec 0-60mph. It's easy to get 30mpg highway on most cars, it's the street that matters. Before I even started this gig I was at 28mpg highway. Now I'm at 40mpg highway, it does diddly since I drive mostly on the street.

Now I got to go away for a few days. One of my classes is so hard I have to study day&night so I could pass the final.

Compaq, I don't understand your arguement. The Accord gets better mileage so you're going to buy the camry instead and pump of the tires? Despite what you may think, air in the tires is not some 20% FE improvement bullet, neither is weight reduction, and for you who won't reduce ride comfort I don't know what weight reduction you plan on doing? 20 pounds taking out the spare and then what? 1000$ for a custom CF hood on a brand new car, saving another 15 pounds?

Worrying about how fast your cars go 0-60 will not get your good city mileage...

Compaq, I don't understand your arguement. The Accord gets better mileage so you're going to buy the camry instead and pump of the tires? Despite what you may think, air in the tires is not some 20% FE improvement bullet, neither is weight reduction, and for you who won't reduce ride comfort I don't know what weight reduction you plan on doing? 20 pounds taking out the spare and then what? 1000$ for a custom CF hood on a brand new car, saving another 15 pounds?

Worrying about how fast your cars go 0-60 will not get your good city mileage...

Some people want power and mpg. Getting a car for power and another for mpg would be a real hassle. It's better to have a 2 in 1 package.

22 city is not good FE, neither is 31 highway, and neither is epa over estimation for average drivers by 20%. The fact that cars keep getting worse FE is a testiment to the fact that drivers do not want FE as much as they want do go 0-60 in their family sedan in 4.5 seconds.

22 city is not good FE, neither is 31 highway, and neither is epa over estimation for average drivers by 20%. The fact that cars keep getting worse FE is a testiment to the fact that drivers do not want FE as much as they want do go 0-60 in their family sedan in 4.5 seconds.

My car is 22/30 and I'm at 30mpg mixed. I't just that my 0-60 is 9 seconds:(

how the hell are we talking about your car? this isnt even close to being about your car.

its amazing how this has gotten off topic. compaq, give it up. for 4k more the accord is better than the camry. some people have the 4k some people dont. gonavy can afford it and he will reap the benefits.

not to mention the accord weighs more so it probably has a more comfortable ride.

It has every feature. V6 engine, leather seats, heated seats, nice dash, lighweight wheels, more power, and etc.

I guess he got a good deal.

It has every feature. V6 engine, leather seats, heated seats, nice dash, lighweight wheels, more power, smoother ride, nicehandling great mpg.

he got a good deal.i fixed it ;)

It has every feature. V6 engine, leather seats, heated seats, nice dash, lighweight wheels, more power, and etc.

I guess he got a good deal.

and 40mpg with no sweat on the hwy to boot.