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Spule 4
01-05-2007, 07:08 PM
For those like myself that wondered what would happen to Hybrids when US diesel emissions could be met:
http://news.windingroad.com/alternative-fuel/japan-report-hondas-new-diesel-initiative-to-spark-death-rattle-for-accord-hybrid/
YES!
If this will indeed occur, this is a HUGE step in the right direction. I hope it breaks the bad Diesel perception that the U.S. has. If Toyota follows suit with its Isuzu-based Diesels (including the rumored hybrid), then count me in!
The 2009 4-cyl Diesel (hopefully manual) Accord might prompt me to investigate a purchase. If they team it up with a hybrid drivetrain, then we're actually getting somewhere. Honestly, 2009 had BETTER bring some hi FE, low emission drivetrains in North America.
RH77
The Toecutter
01-05-2007, 10:42 PM
They should make it a diesel-hybrid, really. Preferably of the plug-in variety.
Spule 4
01-06-2007, 09:19 AM
They should make it a diesel-hybrid, really. .
What, GM has been making one since the 1940s....
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/emd103a.jpg
The 2 major players in the locomotive industry are General Electric and "EMD" (the Electro-Motive Division of noneother than General Motors). 95%+ of trains you see today use basic hybrid tech: a huge diesel engine, a generator, and DC (or more recently AC) traction motors.
RH77
What, GM has been making one since the 1940s....
The Toecutter
01-06-2007, 03:19 PM
The 2 major players in the locomotive industry are General Electric and "EMD" (the Electro-Motive Division of noneother than General Motors). 95%+ of trains you see today use basic hybrid tech: a huge diesel engine, a generator, and DC (or more recently AC) traction motors.
Indeed. GM still claims the technology isn't ready. Ferdinand Porsche did it in the 1920s...
Sludgy
01-08-2007, 07:37 AM
What, GM has been making one since the 1940s....
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/emd103a.jpg
Well, not quite since the 1940's....... Diesel electric locomotives don't store energy like a hybrid does. There were no traction batteries in old diesel electric locomotives.
Railroad regenerative braking has been around a long time on electric trains that fed power back to the power grid when braking.
Well, not quite since the 1940's....... Diesel electric locomotives don't store energy like a hybrid does. There were no traction batteries in old diesel electric locomotives.
Railroad regenerative braking has been around a long time on electric trains that fed power back to the power grid when braking.
True -- the batteries again seem to be a crucial component as "Dynamic Braking" turns the traction motors into generators. The energy in "Dynamic" mode is fed into huge resistors and wasted into spent heat in the Diesel-Electric variety.
Electric trains like the Amtrak Acela in the Northeast Corridor take nearly all initial braking action and feed it back into the power grid :thumbup: (it still needs air brakes at each cars wheels to slow it down -- especially at speeds greater than 100 mph) :cool:
RH77