Let's start a list of Make:Model:Trim:Modifications:Conditions:MPG!

[SVOboy]

So, this list will be cool, just something nice to look at and get ideas/inspiration from. But it should be kept in some sort of ordersome way so that it all makes sense just that much easier, so what I'll do it post a shell and then make another with my data to give and example, and then for your posts you can just cut and paste that first empty shell. Here we go:


Make:
Model:
Year:
Trim Level:
Transmission:
EPA:
Driving Style:
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving):
Octane Fuel/Type:
City versus Highway:
MPG:

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<table border="5" cellpadding="5">
<tr>
<th colspan="13">
<b>The Big List</b>
</th>
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<tr>
<td>Owner</td>
<td>Make</td>
<td>Model</td>
<td>Year</td>
<td>Trim Level</td>
<td>Transmission</td>
<td>EPA Ratings</td>
<td>Driving Style</td>
<td>Modifications</td>
<td>Octane </td>
<td>Fuel Type</td>
<td>City versus Highway</td>
<td>MPG</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>greasemonkee</td>
<td>Acura</td>
<td>Integra</td>
<td>??</td>
<td>GSR</td>
<td>5-speed ITR with LSD</td>
<td>?/31</td>
<td>senior citizen on weekdays, dumb kid on weekends.</td>
<td>270 Lbs ligher than stock, Endyn head rework, itr cams, adj. cam gears, blox IM, type one headers, straight thru 2.5" exh, rc 310cc inj, underdrive pulleys, ac removed, aluminum flywheel, cold induction tube, 62mm TB, all coolant lines divorced from IM, thermal IM gasket, tuned with Crome.</td>
<td>93</td>
<td>Premium Gas</td>
<td>50/50</td>
<td>35</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>chasgood</td>
<td>Chrysler</td>
<td>PT Cruiser Turbo</td>
<td>2003</td>
<td>GT</td>
<td>4-speed Automatic</td>
<td>19/25</td>
<td>Average</td>
<td>K&N air filter, Mobil One oil.</td>
<td>91</td>
<td>Mid-grade Gas</td>
<td>I drive a combined city and highway route most of the time.</td>
<td>21</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Hillbillywrench</td>
<td>Dodge</td>
<td>Ram</td>
<td>2002</td>
<td>SLT 4x4 Quad Cab</td>
<td>??</td>
<td>??</td>
<td>speeder, but conservative launches/braking unless i feel the need to leave tire prints at the redlight</td>
<td>K&N fipk, flowmaster 40 series exhaust 3" in dual 2.5" outs, tailgate down on the highway</td>
<td>87 if highway, 93 if going on a trip or towing</td>
<td>Regular or Premium Gas</td>
<td>25/75</td>
<td>13/17</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Jenny</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>CRX </td>
<td>1987 </td>
<td>Si </td>
<td>5-speed Manual Si </td>
<td>30/33 </td>
<td>Gingerly </td>
<td>Skull and crossbones license plate frame, "Darwin loves you" bumper sticker Eye-wink </td>
<td>87</td>
<td>Regular Gas </td>
<td>dude… wtf? </td>
<td>35 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Matt Timion</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>Civic </td>
<td>1989 </td>
<td>DX </td>
<td>5-speed Manual DX</td>
<td>31/36 </td>
<td>Very Conservative </td>
<td>Stock </td>
<td>87 </td>
<td>Regular Gas </td>
<td>80/20 </td>
<td>37/41 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Hillbillywrench</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>Civic Hatch </td>
<td>1989 </td>
<td>DX </td>
<td>??</td>
<td>?? </td>
<td>speeder, but conservative launches/braking unless i'm on a back country road </td>
<td>cai, gutted from driver/passenger seat back </td>
<td>87 when doing highway only, 93 every other tank or when going to the track or country (i do add stp fuel treatment to every tank) </td>
<td>Regular or Premium Gas</td>
<td>25/75</td>
<td>30-40 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>bagpipe goatee</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>Civic Hatch </td>
<td>??</td>
<td>Si/DX </td>
<td>??</td>
<td>?? </td>
<td>whatever to fit my mood. sometimes kinda throttle heavy, but a lot of times not.</td>
<td>everything that can be taken off of an '89 crx si and put onto a '90 hatch. engine, tranny, wiring, blah blah blah. </td>
<td>usually 87, unless i'm in iowa (because 89 is cheaper there, because of ethanol) or nebraska </td>
<td>Regular Gas</td>
<td>50/50</td>
<td>30/40 </td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Diemaster</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>Civic </td>
<td>1991</td>
<td>LX</td>
<td>4-speed Automatic</td>
<td>?? </td>
<td>little aggressive. (I sometimes speed, and if I do it's to get to school on time). </td>
<td>MPFI</td>
<td>87</td>
<td>Regular Gas </td>
<td>60/40</td>
<td>21/29 </td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>SVOboy</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>CRX</td>
<td>1991</td>
<td>DX</td>
<td>4-speed Automatic</td>
<td>29/32</td>
<td>Conservative</td>
<td>Stock</td>
<td>87</td>
<td>Regular Gas</td>
<td>80/20</td>
<td>38.7</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Flatland2D</td>
<td>Honda </td>
<td>Del Sol </td>
<td>1994</td>
<td>s </td>
<td>5-speed Manual B16 </td>
<td>?? </td>
<td>Usually relaxed with coasting whenever I can, but I sometimes make use of all 170hp just for fun </td>
<td> B18C1, Tanabe Hyper Medallion full catback exhaust, 4-1 Header, Short air intake, Moroso </td>
<td>93</td>
<td>Premium Gas </td>
<td>80/20 </td>
<td>27/35 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>kickflipjr</td>
<td>Saturn</td>
<td>SL2</td>
<td>1992</td>
<td>??</td>
<td>Automatic</td>
<td>23/32</td>
<td>around 55-65 (unless i'm in the city). The occasional hard driving just for fun.</td>
<td>homemade cold air intake, some weight reduction (50 pounds or so), turbo muffler, goofing off with water injection</td>
<td>87</td>
<td>Regular Gas</td>
<td>40/60</td>
<td>28.2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ernie Rogers</td>
<td>VW</td>
<td>Beetle</td>
<td>2003</td>
<td>TDI</td>
<td>5-speed Manual</td>
<td>42/49</td>
<td>Normal</td>
<td>Drag reducer wing, 205/60R-16 Mich.Energy MXV4 S8 tires, Motul 0W30 oil</td>
<td>Diesel, 5% to 20% biodiesel blend</td>
<td><<</td>
<td>??</td>
<td>50/60</td>
</tr>

</table>

[Matt Timion]

Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 1989
Trim Level: LX
Transmission: 5 speed manual
EPA: 31/36
Driving Style: Very conservative. I rarely speed, and if I do it's to keep up with the crowd. I coast as much as possible.
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): None yet. I have a large number of modifications planned however.
Octane Fuel/Type: 87/gas
City versus Highway: 80% City/ 20% Highway
MPG: 37/41 (although I did get 46mpg on my last road trip)

[Diemaster]

Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 1991
Trim Level: LX
Transmission: 4 speed automatic (manual swap planed)
EPA: ?/?
Driving Style: little aggressive. (I sometimes speed, and if I do it's to get to school on time).
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): MPFI swap soon to come. no engine modes at time of writing all mods cosmetic.
Octane Fuel/Type: 87/gas
City versus Highway: 60% City/ 40% Highway
MPG: 21/29 (highest ever in life of car was 49mpg. downhill, wind at back, highway, straght, etc.

[bagpipe goatee]

Make: Honda
Model: civic hatchback
Trim level: Si (kinda, was a dx, so no sunroof to leak)
EPA: they never drove my car
Driving Style: whatever to fit my mood. sometimes kinda throttle heavy, but a lot of times not. last winter I got better gas milege when i had it under high throttle than partial because my o2 was messed up and i was too lazy to fix it in the cold (closed loop versus open loop)
Modifications:everything that can be taken off of an '89 crx si and put onto a '90 hatch. engine, tranny, wiring, blah blah blah.
Octane Fuel: usually 87, unless i'm in iowa (because 89 is cheaper there, because of ethanol) or nebraska or something (they have 85, i wouldn't put this in the civic, but have in the rabbit)
City/Highway: i'd guess 50/50
MPG: 3X in the summer city, last winter i got upper 20's. On the highway i get over 40.

[hillbillywrench]

Make:honda
Model:89 civic hatch
Trim: dx
epa:??
Driving Style: speeder, but conservative launches/braking unless i'm on a back country road
Mods: cai, gutted from driver/passenger seat back
Octane: 87 when doing highway only, 93 every other tank or when going to the track or country (i do add stp fuel treatment to every tank)
City/Highway: 25/75 (work out of town)
mpg: 30-40 with a best of 47 on a trip to florida

Make:Dodge
Model:Ram
Trim:02' SLT 4x4 quad cab
EPA:??
Driving Style: speeder, but conservative launches/braking unless i feel the need to leave tire prints at the redlight
Mods: K&N fipk, flowmaster 40 series exhaust 3" in dual 2.5" outs, tailgate down on the highway
Octane: 87 if highway, 93 if going on a trip or towing
Cit/Highway: same, 25/75
MPG: 13/17 with a best of 18.8

[jenny]

Make: Honda

Model: CRX

Year: '87

Trim Level: Si

Teansmission: Manual

EPA: 30/33

Driving Style: gingerly

Modifications: skull and crossbones license plate frame, "Darwin loves you" bumper sticker ;)

Octane/fuel type: 87

City vs. Highway: dude... wtf?

MPG: 35



Yay! I rule.

[chasgood]

<p>Make:Chrysler<br />
Model: PT Cruiser Turbo<br />
Year:2003<br />
Trim Level: GT<br />
Transmission:AT 4 speed<br />
EPA: 19/25<br />
Driving Style: average<br />
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): K&amp;N air filter,&nbsp; Mobil One oil.<br />
Octane Fuel/Type:91<br />
City versus Highway:&nbsp; I drive a combined city and highway route most of the time. average 21mpg. Never been on a long highway trip to log mpg.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>With todays high gas prises I wish I had my old Acura Integra back.&nbsp; It got 31mpg.<br /></p>

[Matt Timion]

Will any of the new members post up their setups? I've seen a few people register with Civic VXs lately. I'm interested in knowing your mpg, etc.

[SVOboy]

Yeah, I'm really interested to see what some of the newer folks are getting with their cars.

[BIBI]

Will any of the new members post up their setups? I've seen a few people register with Civic VXs lately. I'm interested in knowing your mpg, etc.

i'm doing 20km with a litre with my stock VX on highway, that is impressive

[Matt Timion]

That's the same as about 47 miles-per-gallon using US standards. My goal is to get between 50 and 60 after all of my modifications.

[BIBI]

have u ever think about motorcycle?

and what is that:
Civic VX EGR Control Box

[SVOboy]

The civic vx uses an egr system, which is the exhaust gas recycling things, and it basically reruns your exhaust through the system to lower emissions from my understanding of what it is.

[Matt Timion]

The civic vx uses an egr system, which is the exhaust gas recycling things, and it basically reruns your exhaust through the system to lower emissions from my understanding of what it is.

that's exactly what it is. It is unique to the Civic VX (the control box). Some say that it actually hurts the fuel economy. if I can find other ways to lower emissions (hydrogen boost?) I might just remove the EGR assembly all together.

Either way, right now I want the car running properly, so I'm getting all of the needed components.

It's also possible that the EGR Control Box is a USA only unit, which makes me wonder if my JDM Engine needs it or not.

[Flatland2D]

The EGR system recirculates the exhaust gas into the intake to act as a filler gas to reduce combustion. I had the vacuum line on the EGR valve on my old Buick clog up. Took forever to figure that out though. It was smoking horribly (filled up my apartment's whole parking lot with smoke when I stepped on the gas) and didn't smoke one bit after fixing the hose. Removing the system might have adverse effects, maybe it's not so bad after all.

[Matt Timion]

Ah, so it essentially reuses the unburned gas in the exhaust? that's pretty cool.

[kickflipjr]

Make: Saturn
Model: SL2
Year: 1992
Transmission: Automatic
EPA: 23/32
Driving Style: around 55-65 (unless i'm in the city). The occasional hard driving just for fun.
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): homemade cold air intake, some weight reduction (50 pounds or so), turbo muffler, goofing off with water injection
Octane fuel/type: 87
City / Highway: 40%city /60% highway
MPG: 28.2 (after 3 tanks)

[Flatland2D]

Make: Honda
Model: Del Sol
Year: 1994
Trim Level: S
Transmission: S4C (from a B16 engine)
EPA: n/a (too hydrbidized to compare to anything)
Driving Style: Usually relaxed with coasting whenever I can, but I sometimes make use of all 170hp just for fun
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): B18C1, Tanabe Hyper Medallion full catback exhaust, 4-1 Header, Short air intake, Moroso aluminum oil pan, carbon fiber hood
Octane Fuel/Type: 93
City versus Highway: 80%/20%
MPG: 27 city, 35 highway

[SVOboy]

I've been meaning to ask: How much weight do you lose due to the aluminum oil pain, or does it have some other purpose?

[dfoxengr]

the moroso's are probably heavier than the stockers. they are only really useful in road race apps, theyre not for losing weight, but to prevent oil starvation due to them keep the oil centered under the pickup

or if youre lazy and dont want to tap your oil pan for turbo.

just a bling item that you dont need to spend money on.

[SVOboy]

Gotcha, I've heard stuff about the oil starvation, but I've never needed to worry about it.

[dfoxengr]

only happens on the road track....

[dfoxengr]

Quote, originally posted by SVOboy »
What the difference between a short blcok and a long block? Specifically in terms of power and gas mileage? I figure the short block would have higher MPG. kusottare@gmail.com
Thanks.


ouch man, lol

[SVOboy]

That's from months ago before I even had my car, how was I sposed to know never having bought or doing any engine stuff before...That's not really my quote, cuz of course I didn't post my email, he just did so people could flame me, but no one has ever mentioned it (until now), so I guess no one cares so much to play the ignorance game on honda-tech.

[dfoxengr]

it was in his sig, i thought it was a funny coincidence, thats all.

i was dumb once too. but that was like 4 years ago.

[SVOboy]

Yeah, it's in his sig. Whatever, I learned something, and if it takes being laughed at to learn some it is worth it to me. I'm too damn tired to do my homework or college applications though...

[Flatland2D]

About the oil pan. Fox pretty much has it right. They have an internal baffle inside that keeps all the oil from being thrown to the back under heavy acceleration. I believe some also have larger oil capacity but I haven't noticed mine needing more than 4 quarts each change. The aluminum might even transfer heat better than the stock pan. I don't know about that one, though.

I looked them up online and I saw them going for about $450. No way would I ever have spent that money myself, but it's a nice accessory to have. The previous owner did a real good job building this thing up.

[Ernie Rogers]

Make:
Model: VW Beetle TDI (diesel)
Year: 2003
Trim Level: Nice, not gaudy
Transmission: 5 sp manual
EPA: 42 /49
Driving Style: Normal
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving):
Drag reducer wing, 205/60R-16 Mich.Energy MXV4 S8 tires, Motul 0W30 oil
Octane Fuel/Type: Diesel, 5% to 20% biodiesel blend
City versus Highway:
MPG: highway-- 52 mph: 75+ mpg; 62 mph: 63+ mpg; 75 mph: 50 about
city: 45 to 55, depending on conditions.

Mileage is expected to drop about 9% in winter due to lower fuel quality and other factors.

Ernie Rogers

[greasemonkee]

Make: Acura
Model: Intergra
Trim: gsr
Transmission: 5 speed itr/w LSD
EPA: 31 hwy I think
Driving style: senior citizen on weekdays, dumb kid on weekends.
Modifications: 270 Lbs ligher than stock, Endyn head rework, itr cams, adj. cam gears, blox IM, type one headers, straight thru 2.5" exh, rc 310cc inj, underdrive pulleys, ac removed, aluminum flywheel, cold induction tube, 62mm TB, all coolant lines divorced from IM, thermal IM gasket, tuned with Crome.
Octane/ fuel: 93, will be testing and re-tuning for 89 shortly
city vs hwy: 50/50 60 stop lights a day
mpg: 35 - 35.5 with minimal throttle

Considering a switchable fuel heater and 90 psi injector pressure. Obvoiusly, by looking at the mods, you'll see I didn't really have efficiency in mind, therefore I feel there is room to grow. My goal is to clear 40mpg hwy. I may have already done it - I never drive hwy.

[SVOboy]

I think that 40 mpg highway is definately within reason for you, how in the hell did you manage to drop 270 pounds?

[SVOboy]

Moved all the stuff up in my first post for easy looking and comparing. Where's that mpg chart thingy matt? ;-)

[kickflipjr]

I glad yo put that all up front svo.


This guy took 536 lbs out of his saturn for racing. He lists the weight of everything on his site. It will give you an idea of where the weight is.

http://www.evilplastic.com/p92-wgt1.htm

[SVOboy]

I'll post this up by itself cuz it's worth being able to find. ^_^

[SVOboy]

Made a cute table.

[DaX]

Make: Honda
Model: Civic
Year: 1990
Trim Level: DX
Transmission: Automatic
EPA: 33/37
Driving Style: Conservative. Try to stay under 3K RPM's and only do 100 km/h on expressway. Do not use AC when driving alone.
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): Prothane motor mount inserts
Octane Fuel/Type: 89 [(R+M)/2]
City versus Highway: 50/50
MPG: 35-38

[Compaq888]

Make: Nissan
Model: Altima
Year: 1999
Trim Level: GXE
Transmission: Automatic
EPA: 22/30
Driving Style: Either granny style or regular driving. Both on cruise control
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): Removed spare and jack, NGK V power copper spark plugs, 1.2 bar radiator cap, grounding kit, tranny cooler, tires in the front inflated to 37psi and 35psi for the back.
Octane Fuel/Type: 89 octane Shell or Shevron
City versus Highway: 60 hwy/ 40 cty
MPG: Regular driving 27.4mpg, granny driving 28.7mpg.

[Bunger]

Ah, so it essentially reuses the unburned gas in the exhaust? that's pretty cool.

Its not really that it reuses the unburned fuel (which I'm sure it does). EGR systems are put in place to reduce NOx, which is only produced when the combustion temperatures rise above about 2500 degrees. Be introducing exhaust back into the intake, it helps to slow the combustion process, thus lower the combustion temperature. Since I have my EGR vacuum stuff mounted inside the cab, I can tell you that as soon as the car warms up, that thing is on almost 90% of the time (clicks like mad). I would bet that have the JDM version will yield greater mileage, but I hope you have the JDM ecu as well!

[basjoos]

Make: Honda
Model:Civic
Year:92
Trim Level: CX
Transmission: 5 Manual
EPA: 42 (city)/48 (highway)
Driving Style: conservative (below speed limit when no traffic, at speed limit in traffic, above speed limit when coasting downhill ICE off)
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): ICE from Civic DX, 175/70/13 Michilin Harmony tires @ 58psi (OEM size 165/70/13), grill block, underbody panelling, rear wheel skirt, smooth hub caps, body gap filling
Octane Fuel/Type: regular gas
City versus Highway: 5%/95%
MPG: 70's with some night driving and climbing up into the NC mountains, 80's when daytime driving in rural SC.

[SVOboy]

I should kill this post sine it was pre-garage, :p

[MakDiesel]

Make: Honda
Model: CRX
Year: 1985
Trim Level: Si
Transmission: stock Si w/ HF 5th gear (have an HF tranny to go in)
EPA: 30/33
Driving Style: conservative unless I'm either late, in fast traffic, or if I want to hear her scream past 6k
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving): HF 5th gear, pass. side mirror delete, rear wiper delete, 80% stripped interior (no carpet, panels, deadening, etc), A/C delete, generic intake, 2.5" cat-back exhaust...
Octane Fuel/Type: 87
City versus Highway: 15% city/85% HW
MPG: 43 mpg avg. for the last 25k miles

[Jack]

Make: Honda
Model: CRX
Year: 1988
Trim Level: DX
Transmission: 5-speed
EPA: 39 combined I think
Driving Style: Semi-conservative
Modifications (either preformance or gas-saving):
VX rims, Removed AC, no rear interior for now

Octane Fuel/Type: Cheapest
City versus Highway: 80% Highway to work
MPG: 42ish so far hope to do better

[philmcneal]

Make: Honda
Model: Civic Coupe
Year: 2004
Trim Level: DX with AC
Transmission: 5-speed manual
EPA: 7.4LPK/5.7LPK (mid 30 mpg okay ;)
Driving Style: Either about mileage or not getting creamed on the road, I only have fun in 2nd gear.
Modifications (over 50 psi in the tires)
Octane Fuel/Type: Chevron 87 Techron
City versus Highway: 90% city, highway on the weekends if i want to go out
MPG: 45 + or 5.0 LPK or 20 km/L +

[kickflipjr]

This thread is very old...

Gassavers was a baby when this thread was made

[95metro]

I should kill this post sine it was pre-garage, :p

This thread is very old...

Gassavers was a baby when this thread was made

Looks like people still wanna play...:D

[philmcneal]

lol didnt' realize, my bad