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Flatland2D
01-24-2006, 09:17 AM
My wife and I plan to build a house out in a small town in the start of the Texas hill country. I will be building the house myself, but will hire a contractor for the major things like pouring a slab and maybe the framing. What are things that I should include to keep energy bills down? Right now I'm thinking of making the outside walls 6" thick instead of 4" and using a good quality insulation. Cost is an issue so suggestions can't be too expensive, but I'm willing to pay a little more to have things done right. I guess I should look into energy efficient windows and things like that. I haven't been researching all the new home gadgets yet.

Temperature down here can go over 100 in the summer and it stays hot most of the year. The real challenge will be finding an energy efficient cooling system. Winter lasts a month or two, and even then it rarely drops below freezing. We intend on having a wood burning stove for those days and an electric heating system as backup. Also, the floorplan we want to build is almost 3000sqft, but might not build it all at once. We are going to try and stay away from things like lofted ceilings and such.

The house should be pretty neat once it's built though. All the water will be collected from the rain, as that or a well is your only option out there. The location we want to build on is next to a creek, so we'll use that for irrigation. If I could only get the house on renewable energy, it would be completely self-reliant. However, I'm not sold on the idea of solar electricty - too expensive as of now. I might run some outdoor lights and other small things off a solar panel and battery, but that's all I could see happening.

Matt Timion
01-24-2006, 10:06 AM
Considering your climate I think the wood burning stove is a good idea. If it were anywhere else I'd recommend looking into geothermal heating.

As for cooling, you might want to look into a swap cooling system. We use it here in Utah and I think it's wonderful. It won't cool as much as an A/C system, but it's plenty more efficient.

Don't be cheap with insulation and windows. you might want to install a few skylights to save on electricity as well.

There are a few wind generators that are cheap and can mount on your roof. It's a good alternative to solar power (especially if you have a high wind profile there).

I can get you in touch with my friend who is an architect and is especially interested in efficiency if you want.

Sludgy
01-24-2006, 01:50 PM
Everybody immediately thinks of heating and cooling when it comes to energy efficient housing, but efficient appliances and lighting can have the similar savings impact for a LOT less investment.

For example, about 30% of an average home's energy use is for heating water. A tankless, instant-on Takagi, Bosch or Rinnai water heater with drainwater heat recovery (power-pipe.us)will use half that amount, for a lot less than 2x6 walls, special insulation and windows.

Likewise Energy Star (EPA) qualified refigerators and washing machines will use much less energy than standard appliances. Refrigerators use almost as much electricity as water heaters because they run 24/7. Energy Star washers wring out more water so the dryer has to evaporate less.

Finally, installing built-in fluorescent fixtures will save lots on electricity without looking tacky.

Flatland2D
01-24-2006, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the good info. I was planning on buying all energy star rated appliances and such. Skylights are a good idea for keeping electricity down. I was going to include some anyway but didn't even think about the energy savings aspect. I'll have to look into fluorescents energy consumption. Would it be just as good to use low energy bulbs (fluorescents also, but not as big)? I converted my whole apartment to low energy bulbs already and I think it helps. I'm a fan of things like accent lighting which I might try to use some LED's for. Tankless water heaters sounds like a good idea. These are the kinds of things I need to look into, as well as the cooling system Matt mentioned.

Thanks for the tips and info. If anyone wants to add anything it'd be appreciated.

Matt Timion
01-24-2006, 03:51 PM
D'oh... good point Sludgy.

All of the lights in my house (except for the bathroom vanity lights) are the flourescent bulbs. There was a sale at Costco a few years ago when they were brand new. I bought two 8-packs for $2 each. I should have gotten more because I'm almost out. My energy bill dropped in half after installing those.

Energy star is the way to go. I forgot all about the tankless water heaters. I'd actually like to install one. They come as either gas or electric powered. you need to shop around for the right unit for your needs. Some of them can only handle one application at a time (ie, can't use the shower and do dishes at the same time). I'd personally spend the extra money to get one that allows for at least two applications. You think you don't need it but wait until someone tries to take a shower without realizing that the washing machine is running.

I'm kind of a nut for space. I like a minimalist approach, although I'm a collector of junk. This is another reason I love the tankless water heaters. They take up about zero space and arn't ugly like the conventional water heaters.

COnsidering where you live you can really benefit from skylights. It's also important to make your house face a certain direction in order to get the most sunlight possible.

If I were you I'd also install a fireplace just for the hell of it. Not only are they hella cool, but they can act as a backup wood-burning stove, and they're romantic as hell.

Oh, and get a plasma TV too. Space space space!

Matt Timion
01-24-2006, 04:06 PM
Just found this... thought you might like it. The guy's monthly electricity bill is $5/mo.

http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-06/features/energizer/

rh77
01-24-2006, 08:35 PM
There are some builders in my area that specialize in "Green Homes". I got to tour some -- you may be able to search around for some near you to check them out and get some specs. I really wanted to go green when I bought new about a year ago, but the initial investment is sizable, and for the location and size, I couldn't afford it. It's funny to say that, because after 5 years or less, I will have probably paid the difference in what I would have saved. Unfortunately I'm stuck with the least efficient heat-pump and furnace you can buy (not kidding -- the yellow EnergyGuide sticker has a range of efficiency like 10.0 to 48 and I'm at 10). Moral of the story, pay a little up front to save in the long run is a great idea...

RH77

Ryland
03-26-2006, 11:51 AM
Texas has more cooling days per year, then heating days, correct? warm sunny dry summers, cool rainy, overcast winters?
I'm used to building energy efficent houses in Wisconsin, not in Texas, but I'll do my best to give some good advice, as building houses like this is what I have been doing for the last 4 years, and have been around renewable energy all my life, with our current house's electric bill being around $15 a month, for 5 people.

Windows: Low-E glass lets slightly less light thru it (a widely overlooked side point), their main advantage is that they reflects radiant heat, thus keeping your heat from radiating out thru the glass to the great unheated outdoors, if you want your windows to help heat your house put them on the south side where they will get the most sun, if you want your house to loose heat thru windows, put them on the north side, in otherwords, if you life in a place where you need to heat your house, large windows on the north side are an extreamly bad idea, the largest window you should have on a north side might be a small bathroom window, but if you live in some place like arizona, or maybe parts of texas, you don't want alot of windows on the south because of how much they will heat your house in the summer. but to conterdict my self you might want to go with south windows, and skip the east and west windows, if you get alot of hot morning, and evening sun in the summer that would be coming dirrectly in from the east and west, if that is the case, south and north windows, with a good roof overhang (in the summer the sun is overhead at noon, and lower in the sky in the winter) a good roof overhang shads the south windows in the summer, and alows full sun to enter the house in the winter (we do 3 foot overhangs, and no, they don't look funny), basicly, if you plan your windows correctly, and think about your roof overhangs, and live in a mild climet you can get away with minumal heating and cooling, saving you a ton of money, an example of this is a house I built 3 years ago that I visited this summer after it had been 100 degrees for a few weeks in the summer, and inside the house it felt almost cold, 72 degrees, and they didn't even own an airconditioner, good atic venting, good roof overhangs, and insulation.

Roofing: As I already said, let your roof overhang enough to shad the windows, there should be charts on the internet that tell you, based on where you live how much overhang you need for a window of a hight to get enough shade, while alowing full sun in the winter.
what you make your roof out of also makes a differnce, black shingles should not even be made, while, or grey reflect alot of heat, and if you get snow they are less likely to melt the snow, and snow can act as free insulation, some people don't like steel roofs, but if you are willing to go for steel it can be a great choice, it will last 50+ years, (compared to traditional asfalt shingles at 10-15 years, 35 years of you get the best) of course some people don't like how they look, and if you don't insulate your attic (insulate your attic!) you can hear the rain, and it sounds like you are in a shed or barn, oh, and after your steel roof has come to the end of it's useful life you can recycle it, asfalt shingles are considerd toxic waste, like car tires, and if you want to collect rain water off your roof, steel or clay is really the best option, unless you like the taste of tar.

Insulation: 2x4 walls are just silly unless you want to partition off a room inside, however 2x4's are cheap, and if you want to better insulate your house doing what is called a strap wall works extreamly well, as wood conducts heat, having a solid piece of wood (stud) go from the inside of your house to the outside, every 16 inches is alot of wood conducting heat, a strap wall is a 2x4 wall, with 2x2 straping nailed horizontaly, making your wall thicker, and leaving only small areas to conduct heat directly(thermo brake), this is a widly accepted building practice, and altho it does take a little more work (attaching the straping) it doesn't cost alot more then a 2x6 wall, and you get a higher insualtion value without making the wall thicker, and quiter, you can also do dubble straping, by putting 2x2's on both the inside, and outside of the 2x4's.
I would never build a house that has less then an R40 insulation in the attic, as that is where you loose most of your heat, and gain aot in the summer, all the houses I have built have had R65-R70 in the attic (around 20 inches of celulose/ground news paper), of course we also do about R45 walls, but this is Wisconsin.

Skylights: they are cool, pretty, cost alot, and are knowen for leaking, I am personaly a fan of light tubes, 12" tubes that have a clear dome on your roof, and a reflective duct to carry the light, I know they sound kind of hoky, but I've installed them in a number of houses, and seen them in in a number of others, and they are extreamly bright, and make a smaller hole in your roof, so less heat loss, and less area to calk/risk leaking.

You can take any point of energy savings to the extream, but most people don't even have it cross their minds while building.

GeoMetry
04-16-2006, 11:58 AM
There is a book called "Residential Energy" by John Krigger and Chris Dorsi see if you can get a copy from the library or buy a copy for yourself. The fourth edition is a couple years old now but it is very informative and probably has lots of the information you are looking for.

molecule
04-16-2006, 08:17 PM
make your walls 1.5 feet thick and use hay bales !!!
i think the r-value of hay is well over 150
if they are lightly treated or sealed they present less fire hazard than wood...
its also very inexpensive...usually free...especially when compared to any insulation rated over r-50
i'm not sure what is used to seal or spray them with...if at all...

Ryland
04-16-2006, 09:29 PM
make your walls 1.5 feet thick and use hay bales !!!
i think the r-value of hay is well over 150
if they are lightly treated or sealed they present less fire hazard than wood...
its also very inexpensive...usually free...especially when compared to any insulation rated over r-50
i'm not sure what is used to seal or spray them with...if at all...


not hay, never hay, hay is the leaf of alfelfa, with some grass, you want to use straw, the stalk of wheat, oats, rice, barrly, it's like the differnce between the trunk of a tree, and the leaf of a tree, straw, if kept dry will last many many years, there are straw houses that are 100 years old, even if you let it get damp, in the garden, when used as mulch, it will last a year or two, simaler to wood chips used as mulch.
If you want to build a house out of straw, the temputre will be very stable, I've worked on 8 differnt straw buildings in the last 4 years, and helped teach a number of weekend classes on building with this methed as well, I would highly recomend taking a class befor trying to build your own house out of straw because there are some details that can get tricky, and having hands on expearnce is invaulable, even more so when there isn't anyone round that is familuar with what you are doing that you can ask questions of, however when someone trys to tell you that building a house out of straw will be cheaper to build they are not telling the whole truth, it's like tell you that walking is the cheapes way to get around, it will take alot of time to walk 15 miles each way to work, but it will be cheap, right? so how much time do you have, building with straw can be cheap, but it will invalve alot more work then building with wood, if you pay someone else to build it for you it will cost the same as building with wood, the mateerials will cost a little less, but there is more man hours invalved in building with straw, the house will cost less to heat and less to cool.

here are a few houses that I've either worked on, or that friends have built. http://www.nbtsc.org/~ryland/straw/

molecule
04-17-2006, 06:09 PM
awesome

also my friend travels the world and builds houses out of old rubber tires, crushed soda cans & cement...
they built a house down the street from mine (back in vermont) and i got to see the house in many stages...
it uses solar panels and maintains a year round avg temp (in cold *** vermont) of 58° with no additional energy...it takes very little energy to make that house comfortable...
they have some kind of commune of these structures out in arizona
i guess thats their home base...
just throwing another out there...worth investigating...

oh and if you dont love this picture you dont belong on this website
lol...bold statement i know...
http://www.nbtsc.org/%7Eryland/straw/StCloudStrawHouse2.jpg

hawkgt647
04-19-2006, 11:16 AM
As for cooling, you might want to look into a swap cooling system. We use it here in Utah and I think it's wonderful. It won't cool as much as an A/C system, but it's plenty more efficient.



I think this is called a "swamp cooler". When I lived in Layton, Utah it worked great in Utah's dry climate. It's humidifying the air to cool it.
If the area of Texas your in is anything like southern Louisiana, you don't need any extra humidity. Maybe a high effiency A/C unit, with as high of a SEER rating as you can find.

On another note, think about how your house site is oriented, for southern exposures. Maybe try to block the hot sun, minimize windows on that side, use landscaping as a shield/sunblock.

mikefxu
04-28-2006, 07:13 PM
You want a energy star certified home. Check this link it tells you all that is required.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=new_homes.hm_index

Ryland
04-28-2006, 09:36 PM
engery stare homes are like getting a fuel efficent car, anything over 28mpg is thought of by most people as "good" energy stare homes are "good" basicly the best rating for an energy star home will only tell you that the house is not 100% bad, most energy star ratings don't take in to acount solar gain, mass, good design like roof overhangs, they are simply a mesure of quality of appliances, and thickness of insulation, if you design a house that does not need to be heated or cooled with a fuel or other sold energy, is can not be energy star rated, just like bicycles don't have a MPG rating, they are above that.

James
05-09-2006, 05:27 AM
I would try and design the house so that the tankless water heater is located near where the hot water would be used. Our house has a 50 foot line inbetween the bathrooms and the hot water heater, and not only does it take forever to get hot water, but wastes a ton of energy. Starting from scratch you should be able to prevent this.
Also, you may want to look for a site that provides shade from the hot afternoon sun (in the west). Planting trees, or some sort of windbreak on this side is also a possibility, and would probably moderate prevailing winds.

DaX
05-09-2006, 06:50 AM
Holy ****! I am in the market for a new home, and I have been hearing these commercials on the radio for Earth Craft Homes.

I checked out their site yesterday...all their homes are $300K +!!!!! Maybe for my second or third home....

DaX
07-28-2006, 08:30 AM
I recently visited one of my teacher's homes that he built himself. There are many lessons in efficiency that I took from his home...it's amazing! His house is a total of over 3,000 square feet. Here's the things he showed me:

*Basement is the full footprint of the house. It is also totally underground except for a space about 12 feet wide at the back of the house where a set of double doors allow access. The basement stays a cool 67 degrees year round - and yes, I was there this week and the Georgia summer heat was in full force and it was pleasantly cool down there.

*The entire house (interior and exterior walls) is built with 2x6's instead of 2x4's. This allows for greater insulation.

*No insulation between house floor and basement ceiling. This allows for the cool air to more easily transmit through the floors in the summer and the warm air to transmit through the floors in the winter.

*Low-E glass throughout.

*Efficient appliances.

*Brick exterior. The sun rises on one side of his house (which is heavily shaded by trees) and sets on the other. The setting side of his house gets most of the sun during the day and there are NO windows on this side of the house. The front of his house has a 12 foot wide porch on it, so none of the front windows get hit with heavy sun. He also has a tin roof. I don't know if it hels with efficiency, but it's going to last a helluva lot longer than a shingled roof.

All in all I am very impressed. He said he compared energy bills with his neighbor (who's home is less than half his size) and his bill was less than half his neighbor's. He did a lot of the work himself and was his own general contractor, which allowed him to get a smashing deal on the house. I hope to take some of these points to heart when I finally decide to build a home of my own.

katman
08-03-2006, 09:57 AM
Check around for financing. Some lenders will lend considerably more money on an energy efficient home because they know the resale value will be higher and your energy bill will be less allowing you to make the higher monthly payment.