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07-19-2011, 11:37 AM
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grill blocks
I'm thinking about doing a homemade grill block on the Prizm. But while sitting in traffic today(with no A/C running) I notice the temp went up to 202F. If I do a grill block, wouldn't the temp skyrocket while in traffic, even with the rad. fan going?
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07-19-2011, 11:38 AM
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Re: grill blocks
Oh forgot something. The normal running temp to 188F.
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07-19-2011, 11:59 AM
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Re: grill blocks
try half grill block and see where you stand...But if your thinking about using your ac, i would not do the half grill block either, wait till fall..
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07-19-2011, 12:18 PM
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Re: grill blocks
Yeah, I have to use A/C with 100+ and the heat index on top of that. So don't even do a half block right now? Any other simply aero mods that could work right now?
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07-19-2011, 12:58 PM
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Re: grill blocks
front lip, mirror delete, rear diffuser, underbody panel just to name a few
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07-19-2011, 01:27 PM
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Re: grill blocks
I'll look into those. But most I would wait on until the car is paid off.
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07-23-2011, 07:39 AM
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Location: Belgium
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Re: grill blocks
My experience: I use a grill block since end 2009 on my black Civic. In summer around 60%, winter 85-95%. I don't suffer the temps you have now in US. But...strangely enough: in summer, if I use the AC my temps (engine and radiator) go down. That's because the fans are forced to run in such case (compressor AC engaged). And with approx. 40% open a lot of air is still sucked in.
Results of this mod are positive, but nothing more than a single % or so. I had much more notible result when going from 10W40 to 0W20 engine oil.
An my last mod was an engine block heater. Also positive result of course, but seem a bit less influencing than the engine oil. Allthough the period I only had the 0W20 without the EBH was very short. So I can't show any hard data as I did my mods a bit to fast one after the other.
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07-26-2011, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: holland,oh
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Re: grill blocks
i'm going to be creating a aerogrill for my cobalt soon it's not going to completely close off the grill because we need that air flow for a reason but it will allow the air to flow more smoothly compared to getting chopped up by my factory grill
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08-07-2011, 01:09 PM
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Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Re: grill blocks
Since GM and Ford are currently advertising cars with automatic grill blocks, I have to think there might be something to them.
If your temperature gauge reads hotter than normal;
1. Radiator shops usually don't charge to test the radiator.
2. After shut-down, pull the fan fuze, and feel the bottom of the radiator. if it is cool it needs replacement.
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08-07-2011, 06:52 PM
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Re: grill blocks
yea i only have a grillblock in the winter, temps go too high for my comfort in the summer and one car has no gauge just an idiot light that i dont trust
saveing a few cents in gas isnt gonna do much when its a $900 head gasket/warped head job haha
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08-12-2011, 03:02 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: holland,oh
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Re: grill blocks
just installed my home made grill blocker today!! let you guys know the result. my air flow is not compromised though because there is a lower grill that lets plenty of air flow in.
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08-12-2011, 05:12 PM
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Location: League City, TX
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Re: grill blocks
Quote:
Originally Posted by grsshpr1
just installed my home made grill blocker today!! let you guys know the result. my air flow is not compromised though because there is a lower grill that lets plenty of air flow in.
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Got any piccies of yer grill block setup?
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08-17-2011, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: holland,oh
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Re: grill blocks
free lol found the plexiglass and rubber hose at our shop.
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08-17-2011, 07:45 PM
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Re: grill blocks
grsshpr1,
if your aerodynamics is like that of the cavalier, then about 90% of your cooling comes from underneath. on my car there is a flap that attaches to the bottom of the radiator that directs air towards the radiator while going down the road. I know the old 90's camaro was the same way. if the flap gets knocked off, you start to run hot.
I have my entire lower grill blocked off. I used to have the opening between my hood and bumper blocked off all but enough room to pop the hood up. I was just lazy on that and didn't put it back on.
I have had my lower grill blocked off for over 3 years. about 1.5 to 2 years ago I permanently sealed it off. I will admit that my body work skills are horrible but it got the job done and looked good for a little while
http://www.gassavers.org/garage_imag...fzq4ynuh1i.jpg
I would say to research the crap out of your vehicle before doing it but many of us do have complete grill blocks and though I don't see many 100 degree days, we have seen a record number of upper 90 degree days this year. no problems yet. 14 yrs old and 218k miles (7 yrs and about 125k are from me personally).
I started with plexi glass too. made a paper template and used a dremel to cut the plexi. put it on with wing nuts, bolts, and fender washers.
if you have some time to kill, here is how I did the bumper when I made it permanent.
****edit*****
I wouldn't mind seeing pictures of what you did too. curious of how you blocked off the top. always good to see how others do things.
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08-24-2011, 02:07 PM
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: holland,oh
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Re: grill blocks
i'm unsure of how to upload pics onto here? but i came across a shelby cobra carbon fiber front air splitter and i'm going to apply that to my car soon. i'm still getting the parts together for my exhaust.
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08-24-2011, 08:09 PM
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Location: north carolina
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Re: grill blocks
what I do is go to www.tinypic.com and upload it there (you don't have to join). chose the size you want it first and then do the download. once it is done, it will give you a few options.
the screen says "share this image" at the top of it. the second option is: IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards
if you copy and paste this line of text (should say IMG at the front and /IMG at the end) into your message, the picture will show up in the thread.
where I work, they block photobucket so tinypic is golden for me. there are other picture hosting sites but this is what I use.
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08-26-2011, 03:03 PM
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Greenhorn
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: holland,oh
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Re: grill blocks
oh ok so i can use photobucket too i'll get a pic up soon then
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