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Old 05-06-2008, 08:59 PM   #1
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Acura Integra Owner Wants Better MPG

I drive a 1990 Acura Integra GS with a B20B 2.0L high compression Japanese domestic market CR-V engine in it.

Here is some information about my car:
Current Mileage: 127,248 and halfway between 1-2/10ths*
Original estimated EPA Fuel Mileage for 1990 Acura Integra GS (5-speed)** 24/28/25 mpg (City/Highway/Combined)
Revised estimated EPA Fuel Mileage for 1990 Acura Integra GS (5-speed)** 21/26/23 (City/Highway/Combined)
Fuel Capacity: 13.2 gallons

*Chassis mileage, the engine has approximately 70,000-80,000 miles on it.
**This is the listed EPA fuel mileage for a stock 1990 Acura Integra GS five-speed with a 1.8L B18A1. Please note that my Integra has had the stock engine swapped for a high compression JDM B20B.

I joined an Insight forum to find information about driving to save gas and Guillermo told me about this forum, which, since I don't drive an Insight, is better suited to my needs.

I look forward to learning a lot and hope to contribute a little now and then.

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Sounds interesting. What ECU is running it? Is it converted to OBD1?

High compression will help your mpg but it may also require higher octane. It's a trade-off I'd be willing to make.
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Sounds interesting. What ECU is running it? Is it converted to OBD1?

High compression will help your mpg but it may also require higher octane. It's a trade-off I'd be willing to make.
Agreed. VE is worth it
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:38 AM   #4
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Sounds interesting. What ECU is running it? Is it converted to OBD1?
Yes, I believe it is converted to OBD1.

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High compression will help your mpg but it may also require higher octane. It's a trade-off I'd be willing to make.
Well, I don't have any knocking, so it seems 87 octane is good for now.

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Small world.

Well my DA has a bad tranny and I'm having a hard time working out some bugs with the Coil on plug conversion on my Civic.

I just moved and got a two car garage

But it's full of boxes and crap
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:11 PM   #6
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I just moved and got a two car garage

But it's full of boxes and crap
Some day soon I hope to have a two car garage. One for my DD and one for my project car.

If I'm lucky, the DD will be a Honda Insight and the project car will be my DA.

Right now I have to borrow my parents garage whenever I want to work on anything, which is okay since they're in the same town I am but it's going to be a PITA when I swap out my blown stock struts for new ones in a few weeks.


Back on topic:
So far I've been driving using methods I've read about to conserve fuel on this tank alone. Soon I should be able to post what my average MPG was on this tank and then try to improve on that.

Now that I've found this forum, I have a lot of reading to do!
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I just moved and got a two car garage

But it's full of boxes and crap
Heh, that happened to me too, went from a 1000 sq ft house with basement to 1400 sqft with same size basement and garage and somehow there's no room for anything and the garage is stuffed with crap.
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Heh, that happened to me too, went from a 1000 sq ft house with basement to 1400 sqft with same size basement and garage and somehow there's no room for anything and the garage is stuffed with crap.

Ha same here.
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Just a little update, I'm at half a tank, according to the gas gauge in my Integra and the trip meter is at 172.6 miles. The tank holds 13.2 gallons, so half is approximately 6.6 gallons.

172.6miles/6.6gallons=26.15mpg

This is just an estimate, of course, since I can't tell exactly how many gallons I've used until I fill up again but 26.15mpg is better than the revised highway EPA estimate and I have a 2.0L engine, rather than the stock 1.8L.

I'm pretty happy with this result but I'm by no means satisfied. I know I'm not doing everything I can do to conserve gas. Ultimately, I'd like to get 32mpg per tank.

I've found the biggest change for me is not actually changing the way I drive but changing the way I think. Thinking about driving efficiently, accelerating slowly, driving the speed limit... these things have sort of calmed down the way I drive. I'm not driving nearly as aggressively now that I'm concentrating on saving gas and I find myself less likely to engage in the "road-ragey" behavior I was more prone to in the past when I was zipping around like Speed Racer.
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Here's a tip that actually seems to work: Start posting your gaslogs. When you're actively doing it where everyone can see, you're more liable to do what you said - think about your driving - and that alone will help increase a couple of MPG. Keep us posted!
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I will be. I just started keeping track with the last tank I got, and I'm only half way through it now. I fully intend to keep track of each tank.

I see you're looking for a CRX... me too.
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Just a little update, I'm at half a tank, according to the gas gauge in my Integra and the trip meter is at 172.6 miles. The tank holds 13.2 gallons, so half is approximately 6.6 gallons.

172.6miles/6.6gallons=26.15mpg

This is just an estimate, of course, since I can't tell exactly how many gallons I've used until I fill up again but 26.15mpg is better than the revised highway EPA estimate and I have a 2.0L engine, rather than the stock 1.8L.

I'm pretty happy with this result but I'm by no means satisfied. I know I'm not doing everything I can do to conserve gas. Ultimately, I'd like to get 32mpg per tank.

I've found the biggest change for me is not actually changing the way I drive but changing the way I think. Thinking about driving efficiently, accelerating slowly, driving the speed limit... these things have sort of calmed down the way I drive. I'm not driving nearly as aggressively now that I'm concentrating on saving gas and I find myself less likely to engage in the "road-ragey" behavior I was more prone to in the past when I was zipping around like Speed Racer.
I think this may be one of the greatest benefits to changing my driving habits to save gas. To not be in a rush and be mellow is a wonderful thing. Although I sometimes get annoyed when someone is too slow to accelerate from a light I've timed, and then have to break. :P But there's much less tendency towards road rage and impatience.

One thing you can do if you drive on the highway is follow trailer tucks 125 feet back or three stripes on the roadway-- I believe it was R.I.D.E. that told me about that method of measuring 125 feet (each stripe is approx 43 feet) Click on "stripes" in my signature.
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Hmm... that's interesting. I'll have to try that the next time I'm on the highway. I drive a small stretch of "highway" out to work but there are so many people getting on and off that drafting isn't really possible but on the main interstate I might try this.

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Most efficient acceleration 1500 to 2000 at 70% wide open throttle.

Coast as much as possible (engine on or off) with engine idling and vehicle going 50 mph you are getting close to 200 mpg, with engine off you are getting infinite mpg.

Downshift instead of using brakes use highest gear including 5th with foot off the gas to actuate fuel shutoff (no fuel consumed).

Drive as if your brake master cylinder had lost pressure and you had only your emergency brake (after all it could happen any time).

Try to time the lights in you normal routes, when you get good at it you will see the stupidity in other drivers that race to a red light and force you to have to slow down or stop, when you could have coasted through the light with perfect timing.

Choose the path less taken. In many places there are roads that are generally avoided by many who think they take too long. Where I live there is a road that runs parallel with the interstate for an 8 mile stretch with the speed limit 55 for half and 45 for half. I can't tell you how many times I have been putting down that road pulse and gliding at over 60 mpg, laughing at the traffic on the interstate that is completely stopped with no exit for 4 miles.

If you live in an area with hills try to accelerate uphill and coast downhill while maintaining a relatively constant speed.

If you are forced to drive a route where there are only two lanes and a lot of people pulling out on the road, its really tough to find a good compromise, too far behind the car in front of you and everyone pulls out in front of you, too close and you are constantly braking when the vehicle in front of you does the same. You best choice is to use your own judgement and develop a position that you prefer as far as a balance between courtesy and efficiency.

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Just want to make sure you know how to calculate mileage. You don't need to know the max capacity of the tank and you don't need to empty the tank either.
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Yeah, just how many miles I travel on how much gas. I'll know exactly how many MPG I get when I fill up next.

Divide the number of miles driven by the amount of gas I buy at my next purchase to fill up the tank and viola! MPG.
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Finally got to put an entry in my gaslog. Woo-hoo!

Fuel Purchase 5/2/08
Fuel Purchased: 10.106 gallons
Fuel PPG (price per gallon): $3.549
Total Fuel Cost: $35.87
Current Mileage: 126,248.1

Fuel Purchase 5/16/08
Fuel Purchased: 9.824 gallons
Fuel PPG: $3.759
Total Fuel Cost: $36.93
Current Mileage: 126,544.9
Trip: 296.8

MPG: 30.21
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I drive a 1990 Acura Integra GS with a B20B 2.0L high compression Japanese domestic market CR-V engine in it.

Here is some information about my car:
Current Mileage: 127,248 and halfway between 1-2/10ths*
Original estimated EPA Fuel Mileage for 1990 Acura Integra GS (5-speed)** 24/28/25 mpg (City/Highway/Combined)
Revised estimated EPA Fuel Mileage for 1990 Acura Integra GS (5-speed)** 21/26/23 (City/Highway/Combined)
Fuel Capacity: 13.2 gallons
Did you know that our driving style has a big impact on fuel economy? And by changing the way we drive improves fuel economy by 37%. Do some hypermiling techniques.
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