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06-17-2006, 05:53 PM
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Duct tape increase FE 6%
I guess those of us "duct tape mechanics" are ahead of our time.
http://www.kirotv.com/consumer/2220354/detail.html
Guess you could put fuel magnets in the busted column.
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06-17-2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zpiloto
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Where exactly did they put the duct tape?
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06-17-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
Where exactly did they put the duct tape?
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I don't know if they said. it just shows how varible tank to tank reading can be. But I've got a ton of duct tape on my car. Maybe that why FE has been going up
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06-17-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zpiloto
I don't know if they said. it just shows how varible tank to tank reading can be. But I've got a ton of duct tape on my car. Maybe that why FE has been going up 
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Duct tape is not that good. Duct tape is only a crotch. I've replaced all my duct tape because it didn't hold up the parts good. I have no duct tape anymore on my car.
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06-18-2006, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
Duct tape is only a crotch.
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uh... i dont know what you are alluding too, but stop it, stop it now. no more dirty talk.
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06-18-2006, 05:20 AM
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The duct tape that I used isn't for holding the belly pan on, it is for a smooth transition from bumper to belly pan. I spray painted it black to match the black trim under the bumper and the paint did a good job sealing the edges of the tape. The tape is still secure and may last for years at this rate.
Duct tape is also good for hair removal.
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06-18-2006, 05:25 AM
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Duct tape is also good for hair removal.
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OUCH! That hurts just thinking about it.  Especially if:
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Duct tape is only a crotch.
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Ok, enough said.
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06-18-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
Duct tape is not that good. Duct tape is only a crotch. I've replaced all my duct tape because it didn't hold up the parts good. I have no duct tape anymore on my car.
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Please note the smiley on the original post.
The duct tape was just thrown on. It could have just been on the hood. It was most likely a very small piece of duct tape.
The purpose of the duct tape was to serve as a control group for the other tests, not to be an actual modification.
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06-18-2006, 01:02 PM
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The only purpose I see for duct tape is maybe between body panels. But duct tape will stand out too much. Maybe some clear tape. I definetly won't use cauking.
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06-18-2006, 01:38 PM
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06-18-2006, 01:54 PM
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*shrug*
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I thought it was all a joke...
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06-18-2006, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SVOboy
I thought it was all a joke...
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You thought right. Apparently everyone gets it... well, almost everyone.
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06-18-2006, 04:13 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder if the color of the duct tape would matter?
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06-18-2006, 08:28 PM
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You thought right. Apparently everyone gets it... well, almost everyone.
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everyone that isnt obsessed with crotches gets it 
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06-18-2006, 10:57 PM
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well that's a sick joke then. Duct tape can increase fuel economy but if articles write that kind of crap then I won't read them anymore.
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06-18-2006, 11:00 PM
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It's just illustrating how tanks can vary and produce deceptive results, it's not a jokem per se, but a parody.
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06-18-2006, 11:02 PM
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yea lighten up
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06-19-2006, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
well that's a sick joke then. Duct tape can increase fuel economy but if articles write that kind of crap then I won't read them anymore.
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as I said in a previous post the duct tape is meant to be a "control group," or a group with no fuel economy modifications. This is standard practice when conducting experiments. The experimental group(s) are compared to the control group to determine if there is a statistically significant difference between the groups.
In this case, they showed that the duct tape group (no mods) actually had better fuel economy than any of the other modifications. This proves two things:
1) Gas mileage can vary a lot between tanks
2) The modifications made no difference
The entire point of this post was to illustrate this and to sarcastically draw attention to the fact that duct tape was more successful than any of the commerically available modifications.
No sick joke. Nothing serious.
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06-19-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Timion
as I said in a previous post the duct tape is meant to be a "control group," or a group with no fuel economy modifications. This is standard practice when conducting experiments. The experimental group(s) are compared to the control group to determine if there is a statistically significant difference between the groups.
In this case, they showed that the duct tape group (no mods) actually had better fuel economy than any of the other modifications. This proves two things:
1) Gas mileage can vary a lot between tanks
2) The modifications made no difference
The entire point of this post was to illustrate this and to sarcastically draw attention to the fact that duct tape was more successful than any of the commerically available modifications.
No sick joke. Nothing serious.
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so what you're saying is duct tape which is practically cheap improved fuel economy while expensive POS crap did nothing
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06-19-2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
so what you're saying is duct tape which is practically cheap improved fuel economy while expensive POS crap did nothing
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Ugh. Read what I wrote again. Duct tape did NOTHING.
NOTHING.
NOTHING.
Pretend that the duct tape was replaced by a Pez dispenser, or a box of tissue on the passenger's seat.
The entire point of the duct tape was to show that doing NOTHING at all (ie, adding a piece of duct tape to the car) can yield more economy than buying one of these gadgets.
That has nothing to do with the Pez dispenser, the tissue, or the duct tape. It has everything to do with variability in testing.
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06-19-2006, 01:52 AM
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Dude, where I can I find one of those pez dispensers?
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06-19-2006, 02:01 AM
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Mighty Mira Dude, where I can I find one of those pez dispensers?
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Yeah, and what color was it?
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06-19-2006, 02:25 AM
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What's a pez dispenser?
no joke, seriously.
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06-19-2006, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Compaq888
What's a pez dispenser?
no joke, seriously. 
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It's a device for dispensing candy (pez), because picking individual candy pieces up by hand is just... so hard.
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06-19-2006, 01:15 PM
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Ok, so now if I get a PEZ dispensor and duct tape, does that mean I can get 12% better mileage? Do the tape and the dispensor have to be color coordinated to the car, or is it better to use some obscure unique color's?
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06-19-2006, 04:34 PM
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i customized my pez dispensor for aerodynamics and now my top speed in the 1/4 mile went up 2mph. AND i got .5mpg just by clipping 2 coils in the spring!
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06-19-2006, 04:59 PM
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I seem to get better MPG when I wash the car off clean especially the hood and nose - waxing it helps too making it nice and smooth and slippery. This warmer air is also less dense and I have seen Air Intake temps in the 80-95 degree range.
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06-19-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thisisntjared
i customized my pez dispensor for aerodynamics and now my top speed in the 1/4 mile went up 2mph. AND i got .5mpg just by clipping 2 coils in the spring!
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I noticed the exact same thing with my pez dispenser. I also noticed that my FE increases by over 20% when I go downhill. That is because my fuel gauge moves toward the full mark by about 20%.
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06-19-2006, 07:45 PM
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I didn't notice any improvement in MPG since adding all the race tape. It LOOKS like it should help, but so did removing the antenna and wipers. Maybe I need to be going 100 mph to notice any difference in fuel economy.
BTW, duct tape is garbage, and I don't care what color we're talking about. Buy race tape. It costs more, but it really does hold.
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