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Old 03-11-2007, 07:57 PM   #1
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Standings and Stats: Beginning May 21

Use this thread to post your weekly results & fill-ups.

Use this thread for discussion, if possible:
FE Team Challenge - discussion

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Results based on team average % over EPA (using "new" figures, found here) using the 90-day calculation to start.

Team members, check your description (esp. EPA, to make sure you're using the 2008/new figures).

driver ... car name ... car details ... 2008 EPA ... 90-day MPG ... % over EPA

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TEAM 1: "OPEC Busters"
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zpiloto ... Coche Loco ... '00 Daewoo Lanos 1.6 automatic ... 20/31/24 ... 39.34 ... 63.91%

Lug_Nut ... Kyoto Camel too ... '96 Passat GLX 1.9 turbo diesel (5-spd ??) ... 17/24/19 ... 43.71 ... 130%

repete86 ... The Green Machine ... '93 Accord DX automatic ... 19/26/22 ... 42.76 ... 94.3%

BeeUU ... Peugeot 405 ... '89 Peugeot 405 5-spd ... 18/24/20 ... 32.17 ... 60.8%

Brock ... Jetta Wagon ... '03 Jetta GLS TDI 5-spd ... 35/45/39 ... 54.84 ... 40.6%

Starting team average over EPA: 77.92% (need zpiloto info)

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TEAM 2: "Slow Burn"
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MetroMPG ... Firefly #2 Blackfly ... '98 Pontiac Firefly (Geo Metro) 1.0 5-spd ... 36/44/40 ... 59.1 ... 47.8%

diamondlarry ... DOHCtor Green MPG ... '92 Saturn SL2 5-spd ... 23/34/27 ... 49.96 ... 85%

DRW ... 90 Laser ... '90 Laser RS 2.0 turbo 5-spd ... 19/26/22 ... 38.97 ... 77.1%

basjoos ... Keeps on Rollin' ... '92 Civic CX 5-spd ... 33/42/37 ... 70.36 ... 90.2%

ELF ... The sable ... '00 Sable LS 3.0 V6 auto ... 17/26/20 ... 27.6 ... 38%

Starting team average over EPA: 67.6%

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TEAM 3: "GasMisers5"
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CO ZX2
... Old Reliable ... '99 Ford ZX2 2.0 5-speed ... 22/30/25 ... 64.32 ... 157.2%

FormulaTwo ... The Egg ... '93 Civic CX ... 1.5 5-speed ... 29/37/32 ... 58.13 ... 81.65%

omgwtfbyobbq ... White Bread ... '92 Toyota Camry V6 automatic ... 16/23/19 ... 33 ... 73.68%

landspeed ... Bluey ... '87 Nissan Bluebird Turbo 1.8 5-speed ... 22/25/22 ... 35.61 ... 61.86%

jwxr7 ... The Metro Experience ... '94 Geo Metro 4 dr. 1.0 5-speed ... 38/44/40 ... 53.63 ... 34.07%

Team starting % over EPA:
81.7%

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RESULTS - Week 1
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Ending on & including Sunday, March 18/07:

Driver ... MPG t.w. (@ start) ... % over EPA t.w (@ start) .... improvement t.w. over starting EPA %

(Where no MPG reported this week (t.w.), driver is assumed to have made no change from his 90 day starting average MPG.)

TEAM 1: "OPEC Busters"

zpiloto ... 41.6 (39.3) ... 73.3% (63.9%) ... +9.4%
Lug_Nut ... 46.3 (43.71) ... 143.7% (130%) ... + 13.6%
repete86 ... 34.5 (42.76) ... 56.9% (94.3%) ... -37.5%
BeeUU ...32.17 (32.17) ... 60.8% (60.8%) ... 0.0%
Brock ... 58 (54.84) ... 48.7% (40.6%) ... +8.1%

Average change in % over EPA: -0.8%

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TEAM 2: "Slow Burn"

MetroMPG ... 59.1 (59.1) ... 47.8% (47.8%) ... 0.0%
diamondlarry ... 58.3 (49.96) ... 115.8% (85%) ... +30.7%
DRW ... 41.9 (38.97) ... 90.3% (77.1%) ... +13.2%
basjoos ... 69.8 (70.36) ... 88.7% (90.2%) ... -1.4%
ELF ... 32.3 (27.6) ... 61.5% (38%) ... + 23.5%

Average change in % over EPA: +13.2%

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RESULTS - Week 2
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Ending on & including Sunday, March 25/07:

Driver ... MPG t.w. (@ start) ... % over EPA t.w (@ start) .... improvement t.w. over starting EPA %

(Where no MPG reported this week (t.w.), driver is assumed to have made no change from his 90 day starting average MPG.)

TEAM 1: "OPEC Busters"

zpiloto... 41.6 (39.3) ... 73.5% (63.9%) ... +9.5%
Lug_Nut ... 46.9 (43.71) ... 146.7% (130%) ... + 16.6%
repete86 ... 41.7 (42.76) ... 89.4% (94.3%) ... -5.0%
BeeUU ...37.1 (32.17) ... 85.5% (60.8%) ... 24.6%
Brock ... 62 (54.84) ... 59.0% (40.6%) ... 18.4%


Average change in % over EPA: +12.8%

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TEAM 2: "Slow Burn"

MetroMPG ... 74.9 (59.1) ... 87.3% (47.8%) ... +39.5%
diamondlarry ... 57 (49.96) ... 111.1% (85%) ... +26.1%
DRW ... 42.5 (38.97) ... 93.4% (77.1%) ... +16.3%
basjoos ... 67 (70.36) ... 81.1% (90.2%) ... -9.1%
ELF ... 32.8 (27.6) ... 63.8% (38%) ... +25.8%

Average change in % over EPA: +19.7%

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TEAM 3: "GasMisers5"

COZX2 ... 72 (64.32) ... 188% (157.3%) ... +30.7%
FormulaTwo ... 58.13 (58.13) ... 81.7% (81.7%) ... 0.0%
omgwtfbyobbq ... 36.6 (33) ... 92.8% (73.7%) ... +19.1%
landspeed ... 37.9 (35.61) ... 72.3% (61.9%) ... +10.4%
jwxr7 ... 60.3 (53.63) ... 50.8% (34.1%) ... +16.7%

Average change in % over EPA: +15.4%

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RESULTS - Week 3
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Ending on & including Sunday, April 1/07:

Driver ... MPG t.w. (@ start) ... % over EPA t.w (@ start) .... improvement t.w. over starting EPA %

(Where no MPG reported this week (t.w.), driver is assumed to have made no change from his 90 day starting average MPG.)

TEAM 1: "OPEC Busters"

zpiloto... 0 (39.3) ... 0 (63.9%) ... 0.0%
Lug_Nut ... 55.1 (43.71) ... 190.0% (130%) ... + 59.9%
repete86 ... 0 (42.76) ... 0 (94.3%) ... 0.0%
BeeUU ...0 (32.17) ... 0 (60.8%) ... 0.0%
Brock ... 62 (54.84) ... 59.0% (40.6%) ... 18.4%


Average change in % over EPA: +15.7%

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TEAM 2: "Slow Burn"

MetroMPG ... 79.4 (59.1) ... 98.5% (47.8%) ... +50.8%
diamondlarry ... 54.9 (49.96) ... 103.2% (85%) ... +18.2%
DRW ... 44.5 (38.97) ... 102.4% (77.1%) ... +25.3%
basjoos ... 0 (70.36) ... 0 (90.2%) ... 0.0%
ELF ... 27.3 (27.6) ... 36.3% (38%) ... -1.7%

Average change in % over EPA: +18.5%

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TEAM 3: "GasMisers5"

COZX2 ... 122 (64.32) ... 388% (157.3%) ... +230.7%
FormulaTwo ... 57.5 (58.13) ... 79.7% (81.7%) ... -2.0%
omgwtfbyobbq ... 0 (33) ... 0 (73.7%) ... 0.0%
landspeed ... 41.0 (35.61) ... 86.3% (61.9%) ... +24.4%
jwxr7 ... 57.9 (53.63) ... 57.9% (34.1%) ... +23.8%

Average change in % over EPA: +55.4%

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Old 03-11-2007, 09:01 PM   #2
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Z-39.34 and 63.91 over. basjoos needs to update to the new numbers. I think his drops all the way down to 38 mpg
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The Passat is also a five manual.
I didn't top off the fuel tank to start this. I've been, if not exactly good about FE, at least not wasteful so far on this most recent fill-up. I'm at 400+ trip miles and still showing above 'full' on the gauge with an on-board display of 45+ mpg since last filling.
Now that I have the summer tires on (44psi and lower resistance than the 36 psi max snow tires I took off) and since I also have this friendly challenge as an added incentive to fuel economize, I hope to improve.
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I updated my car to the new EPA numbers (42/33/37).
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I updated mine as well.

Lug your EPA numbers look like gasser numbers for the TDI? Were they really that low for diesel?
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Oh ya that’s right. The diesel version was rated at 31-35-41. Should we use those numbers since that's what the diesel was rated at or is that just considered a modification? That might get team 1 closer to team 2 to start.

Just throwing out an idea as to who wins (beside all of us). Maybe go by a % change from what the numbers now to 1 month and 2 months and so on?

So right now

team 1 is 77.92
team 2 is 68.05

after a month say team one is at 79.92 and team 2 is at 71.05. The team 1 would be 2% up and team 2 would have beat us being 3% up?

That way we start where we were to even the playing field?
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Oh ya that?s right. The diesel version was rated at 31-35-41. Should we use those numbers since that's what the diesel was rated at or is that just considered a modification? That might get team 1 closer to team 2 to start.

Just throwing out an idea as to who wins (beside all of us). Maybe go by a % change from what the numbers now to 1 month and 2 months and so on?

So right now

team 1 is 77.92
team 2 is 68.05

after a month say team one is at 79.92 and team 2 is at 71.05. The team 1 would be 2% up and team 2 would have beat us being 3% up?

That way we start where we were to even the playing field?

Let's not use this thread for discussions it will get to off topic. Let's discuss on the other thread. I'll pick this up on the other team FE thread.
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I'm going to be filling up tonight. Is this the right thread for posting my results? According to the guage, things are looking good.
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Sure, yeah. If you feel like double-posting to the regular update thread, that's fine.
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Sure, yeah. If you feel like double-posting to the regular update thread, that's fine.

Will there be a seperate update thread for the team challenge updates? If so, has it been created yet?
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I think that's this thread. I'll probably edit the first post with stats as they're generated.
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I think that's this thread. I'll probably edit the first post with stats as they're generated.
Metro it's easy enough to start a team weekly MPG update thread for folks to post once a week. What would be easier for you as far as getting results? it might be better to just have this thread for offical results. There will probably be alot of comments after each MPG update.
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First tank of the challenge. 301.2 miles and 5.17 gallons used for 58.259 mpg. I'll post details later in the official thread when it's created.
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First tank of the challenge. 301.2 miles and 5.17 gallons used for 58.259 mpg. I'll post details later in the official thread when it's created.
OK, so for now I'll give you a unofficial Woooo Hoooo
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First tank of the challenge. 301.2 miles and 5.17 gallons used for 58.259 mpg. I'll post details later in the official thread when it's created.
Go ahead and post it here, Larry. We're going to stick with just the 2 threads. I'll post a hyperlink to the top post whenever I update it.
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It also might make it easier if teams put their entry with other teammates by using the quote button. That way all teams entries will be on the last thread and you don't need to go looking for the others.

Let try to make entry either by fills or SG numbers(if you have it) by Sunday of every week. Give mileage, gallons and tank MPG.
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Since I do not have a ScanGauge, should I be filling up once a week?

Or should I wait for the end of the month?

Some weeks I may not get through 3 gallons....sorry.
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Since I do not have a ScanGauge, should I be filling up once a week?

Or should I wait for the end of the month?

Some weeks I may not get through 3 gallons....sorry.
No just fill at the end of the month or whenever you are ready. We'll just use your current % EPA from the gaslog.
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I filled up tonight for my first tank of the competition. There's nothing like a little competition to motivate me. I got a new personal best at 41.87mpg! Warmer weather and summer wind patterns have returned recently. I hope the weather holds, I like these results!

edit: I just noticed that I broke through the barrier and hit an average of 5.99L/100KM. cool
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I filled up tonight for my first tank of the competition. There's nothing like a little competition to motivate me. I got a new personal best at 41.87mpg! Warmer weather and summer wind patterns have returned recently. I hope the weather holds, I like these results!

edit: I just noticed that I broke through the barrier and hit an average of 5.99L/100KM. cool
Nice. Looking at your gaslong you're 3 MPG better then you were in June of last year. Some incredible numbers for the Lazer.

Everyone go back and look at your historical data and see what kind of FE you were doing this time last year. I think you'll be supprised by the results.
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First tank of the challenge. 301.2 miles and 5.17 gallons used for 58.259 mpg. I'll post details later in the official thread when it's created.
First tank, 365 miles..11.3 gallons used = 32.3 mpg.
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First tank, 365 miles..11.3 gallons used = 32.3 mpg.
Nice job with the Sable. Record tank . Metro, your team came to play. Great Job.
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Nice job with the Sable. Record tank . Metro, your team came to play. Great Job.
Yeah! Too bad we don't have a team name yet! Open to suggestions...

And too bad I haven't contributed. I guess I'm actually starting next week. Have some trips coming up.

I'll update the "results" tomorrow evening. So if anyone wants to post last week's results who hasn't, now's your chance.
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Nice job with the Sable. Record tank . Metro, your team came to play. Great Job.
Its a record since I joined here but I have several higher mpg tanks from last summer before I joined.
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No tank fill but according to the SG ( which is not dialed in yet) I've gone 211 miles on 5.0 gallons for a MPG of 41.6.
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Oops! I'm giving away my secrets to the other team! :
Hmm, maybe we need to turn this into a series of PM's. But seriously, as I've said several times before, when one of us(GasSavers) wins, we all win.
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Pretty decent day today. Temp started at ~25F and has warmed up to 45F. Winds have been 0-5 mph from the SW.
1)52.2-5.2 miles(church)
2)64.1-5.2 miles(home)
3)67.9-11.5 miles(out to eat)
4)60.3-11.5 miles(home)
Average for today: 61.7
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Yeah! Too bad we don't have a team name yet! Open to suggestions...

And too bad I haven't contributed. I guess I'm actually starting next week. Have some trips coming up.

I'll update the "results" tomorrow evening. So if anyone wants to post last week's results who hasn't, now's your chance.
We were planning on doing weekly updates so if you have filled give the results and if you have not filled and have FE instrumentation give those results. One per week only please.
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Factory "MFA" data, pretty close, but still not calibrated to the diesel engine: 46.3 mpg.
29 hrs, 42 min of engine operation, 1035 miles, 34 mph average. I have an indicated 7 gallons of fuel remaining so I'll likely be filling by next weekend.
And the taller snow tires went back on due to the snow here. Maybe next weekend those can come off again.
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Week 1 standings updated at the top of this thread: http://www.gassavers.org/f65/standings-and-stats-beginning-may-21-a-3171.html#post43540

With 6 of 10 drivers reporting FE monitor readings or fills:

Team 2 is leading with a 13.3% average improvement, vs. Team 1 OPEC Busters' 4.6% average.

Z: looks like repete86 may have filled this week but didn't report it in this thread. I'll update the results if that's the case.
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