Mopeds and Scooters often have automatic transimitions, so I stuck this in this catagory...
I thinking of selling my moped, a 1980's Tomos Bullet, and sell my Honda Elite 50, and thru a connection I have, get a brand new Tomos at a greatly discounted price What I'm Looking At is the Tomos Arrow partly because I already have a motorcycle for when I want that look of a motorcycle, and I want the more powerful engine that the scooters have, they all are listed as 100+mpg, very vauge, but then how can you give a solid number on something that it could varry so much dependong on rider weight, and style.

i have a goped gsr40 that gets 100 mpg ++++

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now i want a scooter

im thinking about getting a Honda Ruckus for college, anyone know anything about honda scooters?

Honda engines > *

* = all, sorry, one of those computery/slangy things I've just gotten used to.

But anyway, honda is the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world, and has been for decades. It makes excellent engines for this application...so you ought to be good with a honda.

if i dont get a scooter ill have to drive my car in heavy commuter traffic in a college town, and ill have to deal with parking which will suck

and plus the honda ruckus looks sweet

http://www.cmgonline.com/articles/CM...rt_side_bg.jpg

Yeah, man, that is sweet. How much do they go for? I wish I had a bike for trips up and back, even though I'd be scared on a bike for 350 miles at once...

I have a Honda Elite E (50cc) scooter, it runs great, but the automatic transmition on it is a simple CVT and because it's a belt drive, it robs all the power that the little 50cc engine puts out, I've ridden one of the new Tomos scooters with a 50cc engine, and it takes off like I couldn't belive, even my 25 year old moped has power, and the two speed transmition is gear drive with a two speed automatic clutch, it feels smooth, and has good power.
If I had the money I would get another Honda without the stupid belt drive, but as it is I like Tomos because they've been around about 50 years, and parts are avalible and cheap, that is not so much the case with alot of off brand mopeds, and scooters.

despite the auto transmission i think that i will still try to get one, it would be way better than my car

I figure that by useing my motorcycle last summer for short trips around town, putting about 2,000 miles on it in total, I saved over $200 by getting about 25mpg more on a motorcycle then my car could get, if a moped, scooter, or electric bicycle can do even better, and act as a useful vehicle by having a rack, or a back pack for carring things, then your theoretical savings is even more.

Ryland,

What do those scooter sell for retail? they cool... old school and simple. Have you seen the tw200 yamaha street legal dual purpose motorcycle. it is the best of all fat tires for offroad and good on road traction, fun like scooter 80mpg 70mph I bought a used 2003 for 2,400 check them out at www.tw200forum.com they are super cool

the racks come seperate

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The Tomos mopeds, and scooter range in price from about $1,000 for the basic moped without turn signals, up to about $1,650 for the full decked out with crome scooter (the Revivel) with electric starter and front disk brake, I road one last summer and had to be carful to open the throttle slowly, and they are commen enough that you can get after market parts for them for racing, and of course regular parts for repairs, but there are people out there who do crose country road trips on these things.