budomove's KFA d15b8 mpfi swap log

[budomove]

I am hoping to kick frank's a$$, yeah I'm frank.
I want to swap to a b8 from my 16 valve b1.
SVO tells me i need:

dizzy (he's got one)
ecu (he's got it)
injector clips (thanks matt)

The swap would come with mpfi, and i would modify my own harness, hopefully.

I was first thinking of a simple head swap, but SVO has informed me it would be better to swap a whole engine. i.e. less gaskets to buy/worry about

Edit: Just realized my back might not like an entire engine swap. SVO, did you have to lift your engine ever?

[SVOboy]

You'll also need a throttle body, as the swap is missing that.

Anyway, I'm thinking of compiling a full list of what we need to get this crap done, so lemme type for a few minutes.

[SVOboy]

Okee, MPFI/OBD1/D15B8 Swap List:

Longblock
OBD1 Distributor
P05 ECU
IM/TB
Injector Clips
Wire
Electrical Tape
Shrink Wrap
Spare Soldering Iron Tip
Wire Loom
Fix my Valve Cover to Trade You
Water Pump
Timing Belt
Alternator Belt
OBD1 Ecu Plugs
Drain Pan for Coolant

That's all I can think of right now, water pump/timing belt is a good thing to do before the engine goes in.

[SVOboy]

To your edit, I had my back seriously hurt for about three weeks from improper lifting of that b8 engine. But we'll find a hoist somewhere, no worries.

[budomove]

I just put water pump/timing belt/alt belt on last month, all new parts...think they're compatible? Nice list, by the way.

[SVOboy]

They ought to be, We can just put the timing belt up next to the old one and see.

[budomove]

Nice. Your back ok now? I am just worrying about getting it in and out of my car to put on hoist. That is when I can't imagine a way around lifting it. What do you think?

[SVOboy]

Hmm, I lost my reply, but anyway, I only hurt myself not thinking, but I totally stripped the engine also.

Anyway, we can double up on picking it up.

[budomove]

If you are still around, and willing, that would certainly be awesome. We'll see I guess, that's how I ruptured a disc though, picking up the wrong way how you did. Any idea how much the engine weighs? 200-250 lbs, maybe?

[budomove]

duplicate post

[SVOboy]

It'll be less if we take some easy crap off. The engine itself is a little more than 100, so that's cake.

[budomove]

That's doable.
I can't wait to see what we are getting in comparison to one another, so I can decide for sure. Even if I can only get another 6-7 mpg, the fact that I could then have a MID is really tempting. Instantaneous results?! Did you do much EOCing on your last 51.? tank?

[SVOboy]

88% of my distance covered was with the engine on,

[budomove]

Very Nice...Well, well. I was thinking we had such a large discrepancy due to mpfi/dpfi, but i didn't eoc once for my 230 mile 43.7mpg. I bet I could get 49mpg with that much eoc'ing, goes to show mpfi might not be that much better with our 16v setups. If there is barely a diff b/w mpfi/dpfi, the main diff on the hf must be the b7 then, that and the fact that the crx is rated 1mpg better than the civic in any case

[thisisntjared]

see you guys can do that. in southern jersey, the real southern jersey. you cant coast anywhere. except the bridge to the island i live on and i dont care to do that. so all the distance i cover is with the engine on.

[SVOboy]

Yeah, MPFI is definately better but it's no magic bullet,

[SVOboy]

Jared: Most of my coasting is on ramps, in my neighborhood, and engine braking to lights. Other than that traffic prevents me from doing what I want,

[budomove]

I followed your lead on engine braking to lights rather than eoc'ing after my near crash (power brakes went out, as i neared car at light). If the injectors are off, then it's the same, if you need to slow down anyway. I'm glad you told me, cuz I would have kept doing it after my initial scare

[SVOboy]

Yeah, I only eoc where I won't have to brakes, I can always bump into an engine brake and then cut power later,

PM that guy to get pictures of the engine so we know what's included, my email hated him when he tried to send it to me.

[budomove]

I'm on it. You have any interest in keeping my b1, and trying to get a buck for it?

[SVOboy]

I'll keep it, but I doubt there's a buck to be made out of it. I might use the block for something though, also, I'd prolly do a cam swap to see for a fact how the difference affect FE. But who knows!

[budomove]

Yeah, I guess it's not a very sought after engine. Oh well, for research then, equally important.

[SVOboy]

We'll see if matt makes any dough off his. A block in good condition is always worth something, even if you can't sell it,

[Matt Timion]

I'm trying to part mine out right now. no luck so far. Hopefully someone will need a used d15b2 head/intake manifold/distributor.

If not It goes on craigslist.

I do admit that I'd like to make a cool table out of the engine block though. That would be pretty freaking sweet.

[Bunger]

Originally Posted by Matt Timion

I do admit that I'd like to make a cool table out of the engine block though. That would be pretty freaking sweet.

Back before I lived with women, I had a few engine blocks in my apt. I would send them through the dishwasher to clean them up. But I'll tell you from experience, you sure has hell don't want to trip over those things in a half asleep / drunken stupor.


BTW, don't use that dry dishwasher detergent stuff on car parts, makes them get all white spotty, not good.

[SVOboy]

It works good on wheels though,

Actually, Matt, I was palnning on making some sort of table out of the two blocks I have currently. A friend of mine is really into recycled home stuff that's actually useful so we'll get together and think about it,

[SVOboy]

i forgot, obd1 ecu plugs, matttttt?

[budomove]

You could also potentially use a block to chill champagne....a bottle in each cylinder.

[SVOboy]

haha, i don't think the bore is large enough for that, mehbe beer though.

[SVOboy]

I was just thinking that if I were smart I would have bought the thing myself, it will end up being cheaper and less worry than the head swap,