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Old 06-30-2006, 05:03 PM   #1
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Stuck Caliper?

I had to drive the Outback today. For the past 6 months, I have just driven it to church on Sunday, just to keep the seals lubed and the battery up. But today it felt like I was pulling a boat. I went through 1/4 tank of gas on my 50 mile commute. During the last few miles on the way home I got a CEL.

So after parking it in the garage, I smell a strong brake lining material odor from the front driver side wheel. I felt the rim and yikes it was hot. The other three were not nearly as hot. So I figure I have a stuck caliper.

Anyone have another possibility? How do i fix it? Would the CEL be caused by that. UGhhhh
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:08 PM   #2
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Best Guess, it might be the caliper is hung up, from rust and stuff and won't retract, properly. If you work on it, i'd suggest spinning the hub, to check the rotor. I wouldn't be surprized if it's warped, from the heat. Pit's!
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:40 PM   #3
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Well I jacked up the front end and tried to turn the tire by gripping the outside of the tire. It took quite a bit if force to make it move. Then I remived the wheel and could not budge the rotor. Then I took a standard fiberglass handled claw hammer and beat the crap out of the caliper, about 8-10 whacks. I tried to turn the rotor again but to no avail. Then I gave it 15 more whacks and viola! Rotor turny! Then I reinstalled the tire, lowered the jack and started up the engine and put it reverse. Chaching! The car moves under impulse power, a feat that it couldnt do before the whackathon. I still have the CEL however. Im considering whacking the ECU a few times to see it that fixes the CEL. If not I can always get out the electrical tape and cover the CEL.
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:44 PM   #4
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I'd go the tape route! That's easier than pulling the bulb!
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:52 PM   #5
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What code is it throwing?

Why not just fix the code instead of taping it off? lol
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:53 PM   #6
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I give up. How do i know what code it is throwing?
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:57 PM   #7
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I don't know how to do that, on this vehicle. If you had a 94 Chrysler, Town & Country, you do it by turning the key on and off 3x in a row, then the check engine light blinks a 2 digit code out. However, you have to have the code descriptions to know what's what.
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:58 PM   #8
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What code is it throwing?

Why not just fix the code instead of taping it off? lol
It was really tongue in cheak, not serious.
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:59 PM   #9
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I give up. How do i know what code it is throwing?
There's a service port under the right side of the glove box. There will be two ports, you need the one with two sockets.

- Turn the ignition off.
- Insert a paper clip or wire and join the two sockets of the connector.
- Turn the ignition to on (don't start the car)
- The check engine light will blink, long blinks = 10 and short blinks = 1. So one long and five short would be 15.
- Refer to the service manual to see what each code means.
- After you fix the problem or record the code you can reset your ECU by pulling the ECU fuse in the underhood fuse box for 20 seconds or so.

I'll see if I can find the chart that shows which code equals what.

I actually have a switch wired up so I can check my codes by simply flipping a switch. It also helps when setting my timing and idle.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:01 PM   #10
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Before I go looking for the service port, does this apply to Subarus?
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:02 PM   #11
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Okay, here's an explanation on how to check the codes:

http://www.troublecodes.net/honda/

Here's the chart that shows what the codes mean:

http://www.troublecodes.net/honda/hondadtc.shtml

And a picture of the service port you use:

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Old 06-30-2006, 06:02 PM   #12
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Before I go looking for the service port, does this apply to Subarus?
Ooops. LoL. Didn't read that part.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:03 PM   #13
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La de da... Suuuubaruuuuu
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:06 PM   #14
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What year is it?
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Ooops. LoL. Didn't read that part.
RIGHT SPIRIT!
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:09 PM   #16
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:14 PM   #17
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Maybe if you just disconnect the battery for a couple of minutes, it would reset. I wonder if it might be related to the stuck caliper?
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:23 PM   #18
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I wondered about disconnecting the battery. That usually worked on my Spirit unless it was something serious.

Maybe the code is an engine/transmission load warning or something. With 3 wheels spinning free and one stuck that would certainly confuse the AWD.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:25 PM   #19
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I was thinking if I boiled the brake fluid that I might get a CEL. But then I thought it would prolly give me the brake light instead. I will check in the morning and see it the CEL comes on again.
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Old 06-30-2006, 06:29 PM   #20
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It's obd2. take it to autozone and have them check it and reset it for free.
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Old 07-01-2006, 01:30 AM   #21
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If he got a scangauge it would read the cel and reset it also,
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Old 07-01-2006, 05:37 AM   #22
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Yes, I still have the WTB for the scangauge. No love for that cuz Im so cheap. Anyway one reason I bought the VX was because i want to sell the Outback. My wife wount let me because of 3 reasons.
1. We wont have a spare car that will carry the whole family.
2. We wont have a spare car that she can drive.
3. We wont have a car that can get up our steep driveway without having to shovel snow.

Well selling the Del Sol and buying the VX takes care of #1. Teaching her to drive a stick would take care of #2. #3 might get taken care of by itself if I get the job I applied for in SC.

So the CEL needs to go before I sell the outback. I will take it to Autozone.
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:19 AM   #23
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After running a few errands, the CEL went bye, bye. I guess since I ignored it, it lost it's motivation for complaining. That technique works on children also.
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Old 07-01-2006, 10:21 PM   #24
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^^ hahahah its amazing most cars can still run without any human intervention well minus the driving of course.
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