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09-14-2006, 06:08 AM
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Which cars have FE feedback built in?
Trying to make a fairly comprehensive list of vehicles that come with in dash mpg feedback. Please include years available as well if all years do not come with them. Any help you can give is very appreciated.
94 Corvette
Honda Insights
Toyota Prius
Nissan Maurano
02 Maxima
02 Acura MDX
02 Mercedes C230
02 Toyota Sequoia
98 VW Beetle diesel
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(84? 86? 88?) BMW 318i
Ford Taurus (years, and trim unknown.)
'97 VW Passat has a digital mpg readout.
'99 BMW 3-series has an analog mpg readout.
Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer Edition 98
Lincoln Town Car 95
1996 SAAB 900 SET
'93 Seville
Mini Cooper
2005 Nissan Sentra
98 Jeep Grand Cherokee
2001 astro van
2000 lincoln town car
2001 f350 diesel
06 Nissan 350z
Anything late-model Buick, Lexus, Acura, Caddy, Lincoln, Inifiniti, Chrysler, (including Sebring sedan and Convertible, PT - later ones with the option)
Chevy: HHR, Cobalt SS, Malibu, Impala
Pontiac: Higher trims of G6
Nissan: Anything late-model 3.5L (Murano, Maxima, Sentra SE-R), Sentra 1.8S
Dodge: Magnum, Charger
Jeep: Any with the information display option
VW: Jetta, Touareg, Phaeton
Hyundai: Azera, XG350, later Sonatas
Mazda: 3
Ford: Fusion, 500, Some: Taurus, Explorer, Expedition, Excursion, F-series
Saab: nearly all have trip computers, so I guess that includes FE
Maybach: If it doesn't, I'd take the POS back
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09-14-2006, 07:45 AM
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I rented a Ford Taurus that had it.
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09-14-2006, 08:02 AM
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My uncle's older (84? 86? 88?) BMW 318i actually had an analog MPG gauge on the dash.
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09-14-2006, 08:24 AM
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'97 VW Passat has a digital mpg readout.
'99 BMW 3-series has an analog mpg readout.
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09-14-2006, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ketel0ne
Trying to make a fairly comprehensive list of vehicles that come with in dash mpg feedback. Please include years available as well if all years do not come with them. Any help you can give is very appreciated.
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my 1996 SAAB 900 SET had one. |
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09-14-2006, 09:00 AM
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My Grandpa's '93 Seville had one.
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09-14-2006, 09:07 AM
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mpg readout
Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer Edition 98
Lincoln Town Car 95
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09-14-2006, 10:50 AM
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*shrug*
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Mini Cooper!
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09-14-2006, 01:37 PM
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Nearly all BMWs
Nearly all BMWs have an analog gauge.
Also, regarding the Taurus -- that was an option, I believe (which makes it tough to say this "Model" has it without including the trim level.
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09-14-2006, 01:40 PM
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2005 Nissan Sentra
Rented a 2005 Nissan Sentra last year. It had one.
Does anything think it would be possible to take one of these units (off of a seville, for example) and put it on another car?
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09-14-2006, 07:57 PM
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98 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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09-14-2006, 08:16 PM
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My 2001 Chevy Astro has one.
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09-14-2006, 09:04 PM
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2001 astro van
2000 lincoln town car
2001 f350 diesel
Lots of domestic trucks and vans have them. I would say they are not very reliable but I have no evidence.
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09-14-2006, 10:26 PM
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06 Nissan 350z
Rented one out in California, it had one.
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09-15-2006, 03:04 AM
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Ya beat me! Yeah, its inside the RPM gauge.
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Mini Cooper!
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09-15-2006, 09:00 AM
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OK I suppose I'll take a stab at it...
Anything late-model Buick, Lexus, Acura, Caddy, Lincoln, Inifiniti, Chrysler, (including Sebring sedan and Convertible, PT - later ones with the option)
Chevy: HHR, Cobalt SS, Malibu, Impala
Pontiac: Higher trims of G6
Nissan: Anything late-model 3.5L (Murano, Maxima, Sentra SE-R), Sentra 1.8S
Dodge: Magnum, Charger
Jeep: Any with the information display option
VW: Jetta, Touareg, Phaeton
Hyundai: Azera, XG350, later Sonatas
Mazda: 3
Ford: Fusion, 500, Some: Taurus, Explorer, Expedition, Excursion, F-series
Saab: nearly all have trip computers, so I guess that includes FE
Maybach: If it doesn't, I'd take the POS back
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09-16-2006, 12:41 AM
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Maybach
I think if you had a Maybach, FE would be the absolute least of your worries!!! It is sooo big! I would be watching my favorite F1 race replays while my driver takes me around while lighting my cigar and pulling my merlot out of the refrigerator while getting a massage, cooling, and while laying back in my new favorite ''business'' chair.
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02-11-2007, 02:10 PM
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02-11-2007, 03:14 PM
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Nearly all BMWs have an analog gauge.
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I read in the March '07 R&T that on the new BMW 335i sedan dash, "there's a nice oil-temperature gauge inset in the tach, instead of the useless 'instant mpg' needle." 
OTOH, my '02 325 (E46 body style) has both an analog ('instantaneous' mpg) as well as a digital (averaging). 
I don't know what's happening in other models nor what the new trend is. If history serves, FE will go down and performance will go up. The disappearing instrumentation is just a jedi mind trick.
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02-11-2007, 03:37 PM
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My Mercedes 04 E320 provides information digitally about FE on a small LED screen in the middle of the speedometer, switchable between immediate and long term average numbers with buttons on the steering wheel. I believe slightly older or any newer models should also be similarly equipped.
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02-11-2007, 10:17 PM
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2001 Audi TT Quattro Coupe has a digital MPG gauge that gives the average MPG over a certain number of miles
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02-12-2007, 05:22 AM
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my mom's 02 2.5 altima had one. I don't know if her civic has one.
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02-12-2007, 06:01 AM
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My '92 LeBaron has both instant and average in the "Traveler" trip computer. Most Mopar (Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth) cars from that era had this feature available.
Average mpg always has read below calculated mpg at the pump though. The "distance to empty" feature is also always reading less than I think it should. *shrugs* I'll take conservative over optimistic though.
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02-12-2007, 08:48 AM
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I can verify that the late 80's early 90's saab 9000 have an instant and average economy meter. It might have been an option on the 900s. The 900's all had a painted on green/yellow/red on the tach for economy. I think the green was below 2200 or so.
Its depressing to watch the instant fe meter in a 99 jeep grand cherokee, but i'm still glad they put it in there.
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02-12-2007, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
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'97 VW Passat has a digital mpg readout.
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Only those with the MFA (multi-funktion-anzie something) known in English as the multi function display, mostly the GLX top-of-the-line trim models which include the VR6 engine. '95~97 Passat GLX, '95~99.5 Jetta GLX, 95~99 Golf GLX. Many of the later ('98+) VW also have this feature as part of an upgrade trim level option.
The accuracy in these is dependent on the injectors. Stock injectors produce a display number lower than actual, high flow performance injectors produce a very optimistic display number. The computer can be offset to more closely produce numbers in line with actual, but until I have some more data to determine the correct offset, I'm using the dash display as a better / worse reference and the re-fueling pump display and odometer as the actual fuel economy. |
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02-12-2007, 11:16 AM
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Chrysler Town & Country Minivans, 1994 and 1998 both have it. They have both an average number and a real time number, which is updated about every 2-5 seconds, but on some kind of a running average basis.
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