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Old 11-18-2005, 03:00 PM   #1
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Good fuel Mixture?

Below is a post from betterMPG group on Yahoo. Sounds like my idea to mix acetone and Coleman fuel wasn't too far off. I just may have only overdid it a bit.

According to LaPointe....

"We prefer to add one ounce of Torco GP-7 or Torco EAL into a 16 oz. bottle of
acetone. This improves MPG and the lubricity of the fuel and also improves the
anti-knock rating both to diesel fuel and gasoline. Shake the contents well just
before you add this nice mix to the fuel. The amount remains 2 oz. per ten
gallons in diesels and 2-4 oz. per ten gallons of gasoline.

In gasoline only, we often add Techron right after the acetone. Techron is sold
in most parts stores as a cleaner. We use 2-3 oz. of Techron per 10 gallons of
gas. It is made by Texaco/Chevron."

* As I figure it (not again!)...he uses GP7 at a 0.2 oz per 10 gallon ratio. *

Somebody tried Torco EAL and couldn't get it to dissolve.

I'd use the GP7 with acetone...using the acetone to carry it. Or mix into some
gas?



Since I didn't keep my mpg gains last year with 3 oz acetone...I'm going to go
with the following...


acetone at 1 to 2 oz per 10 gallons

Coleman's at 1 to 3 oz per 10 gallons

GP7 at 0.1 to 0.2 oz per 10 gallons


Using this along with the ozone air bleed thru the distributor.


Also bought a bottle of Techron to test.


Will also try wrapping the O2 sensor with alum foil.


And am making a spiral muffler...

http://www.spiralturbobaffles.com/semiinfo.html


So far...knock on Al Lumininium...I'm holding a a 25 mpg level...with occasional
outruns into the 28-31 mpg area.






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Old 11-19-2005, 12:55 AM   #2
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Some Advice for Rookies?

The next step for me is to maybe get a fuel blend going. Any advice for rookies to fuel blending? There seems to be a a variety of choices Coleman's, acetone. Any advice?

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Old 11-19-2005, 09:27 AM   #3
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My advice would be to jump

My advice would be to jump in there and try it out, and make sure to keep lotsa things constant, because blends testing is a pain in the *** in that way. Start with things that've had lotsa success, I should say, and when you look at comercial stuff, always look at their ingredients.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:53 AM   #4
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I agree about it being a

I agree about it being a pain. If you end up with a mixture that doesn't help mpg or even makes it worse, you have to just drive it out. That's why you want to keep track of what you're adding real carefully. I will see if I can dig up some more info on fuel mixtures. There is a guy on one of the Yahoo groups that usually has some good info on mixtures. I do remember somewhere that mineral spirits may be a good additive especially for winter because of something about higher volatility or higher btu content.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:56 AM   #5
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Have you ever tried the old

Have you ever tried the old style mothballs?
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:02 AM   #6
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I've never tried them in the

I've never tried them in the tank. I did try them in an onion bag in my airbox just below the air filter. I had heard that the air with napthalene vapor was more effective than in the gas. My results were inconclusive. I may have to try them in the tank sometime. If you use mothballs, make sure they are the 100% pure napthalene.
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Yeah, I will. I'm trying to

Yeah, I will. I'm trying to get all of my physical stuff out of the way (water injection, distributor mod, h2, blah blah) out of the way before I do mixing, cuz that seems very fined tuned and I wanna have my setup down pat first.
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