Anyone try Vredestein Quatrac 2 LRR tires? Or looking for sugg. on other LRR tires

[NickF829]

I found a distributor up north who sells them at a pretty good price, and they're one of the few models still available in the VX factory 165/70/13 size. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this tire, I like the fact it is considered LRR and even better it's available in the stock tire size.

Any input would be appreciated, if not this tire, then any other recomendations on a good LRR tire near my stock size.

Thanks

Nick

[rh77]

Originally Posted by NickF829

I found a distributor up north who sells them at a pretty good price, and they're one of the few models still available in the VX factory 165/70/13 size. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this tire, I like the fact it is considered LRR and even better it's available in the stock tire size.

Any input would be appreciated, if not this tire, then any other recomendations on a good LRR tire near my stock size.

Thanks

Nick

A few months back, I was very limited with my options and went for the Michelin Energy MXV4 "Green X" tires. RR is definitely down, they're much quieter than the old set, and surprisingly, very capable in the snow (marginal in the rain), and have good dry handling/performance.

Unfortunately, a tire's RR is not generally tested. I've not heard of the brand that you mentioned, but it was mentioned in this thread. "GreanSeal" was to conduct a new test of tires, but here's an old link to a 2003 test (but they didn't test anything smaller than 14" tires).

Hope it helps

RH77

[Ryland]

what are the specs on the tires? wear life and traction? they should be able to get you these numbers, if they are any good, then I would say go for them.

[FireEngineer]

NHTSA Tyre Ratings - Traction, Temperature & Wear - Vredestein

Traction A

Temperature A

Wear 200

[CO ZX2]

Originally Posted by FireEngineer

NHTSA Tyre Ratings - Traction, Temperature & Wear - Vredestein

Traction A

Temperature A

Wear 200

Why would a tire with a Wear 200 rating be considered LRR. To me, wear 200 would indicate a soft compound which wouldn't seem to be conducive to LRR.

There are many tires out there with Wear 500-600 ratings. With 50-60 psi in these, it does not appear to leave much room for LRR improvement.

On top of that, Wear 200 is near the bottom of any list for tire life. Wear ratings this low are usually found on the cheapest highway tires

Why would anyone want a tire that wears out 3 times faster??

[Ryland]

I was rather suprized to find out that the civic vx came new with tires that carried a 180 B B ratting.
lower wear life can meen a number of things, they might have put less tred on to alow for a lighter weight tire, they might have made them softer leading to the tire wearing faster, or I'm sure there are a number of other reasons that a tire might wear faster when you try to get it to role easier.

[NickF829]

Anybody know if it would make a considerable difference to go from a 165/70/13 to a 145/80/13? it's as close to overall diameter as possible, yet requires(or id assume) less force to roll due to the 20mm smaller contact patch. That and its 3lbs lighter per tire then a 165/70/13 so there is a 12lb weight saver right there. The load rating on the stock tire is 963lbs/tire whereas the 145/80 tire is only 853lbs/tire. If you get the gross allowable weight of the car by multiplying the load rating of the tire(853) by 4(no. of tires) to get 3412lbs, then it looks like Id have more then enough of a buffer considering the car itself only weighs 2,000lbs and I don't plan on packing 1412lbs worth of material, ever. Would this be to risky to run the smaller width tire, or should i be ok? Would it make any difference?

[CO ZX2]

Nick,
Looks like a good choice to me. Tire is .79 inch narrower. I would have no qualms about their load-carrying ability on your car.

If you buy from a tire store and have them mounted on the car, they may give you static about size not matching your car. I have got around their objections by carrying them in off vehicle to have mounted, balanced etc.
Don't even tell them what vehicle they are for (trailer is a good answer).

Did you read my post here #5 above? Personally I would not buy treadwear 200 rated tires. Look for 500-600 ratings.

[LxMike]

reading this mad me go check out my tires ratings

65,000 mile warrenty Wear 560
Traction-A
Temp - B
I didn't so any research on them at all. just got what was on sale there. 65,000 mile at the rate i drive will mean they will be good for almost 10 years!!

[Ryland]

who in the world sells a 145/80 13" tire in the US??? if you can find a good tire in that size I say go for it! I would love to get some of those, but I've never seen them, I know diesel VW rabbits came with something simaler to that new, but I've never seen them, my 165/70 13" were hard to find, after calling every single tire store within 35 miles, I found one store that could specail order some from a wear house in chicago that had 23 left, and that modle had been discontinued.

[repete86]

I just got some new tires myself. I wanted some LRR tires but couldn't get any that fit the Green Machine, and couldn't wait any longer. I wish that I could have waited longer, because I really don't like the new tires. They ride smoother, quieter, and handle better, but they just don't coast like the old bald ones did. I remember being able to turn the engine off at 30 mph and being able to coast 1/4 mile to my house and still be going 25ish. None of that anymore....

[1993CivicVX]

Originally Posted by CO ZX2

Why would a tire with a Wear 200 rating be considered LRR. To me, wear 200 would indicate a soft compound which wouldn't seem to be conducive to LRR.

There are many tires out there with Wear 500-600 ratings. With 50-60 psi in these, it does not appear to leave much room for LRR improvement.

On top of that, Wear 200 is near the bottom of any list for tire life. Wear ratings this low are usually found on the cheapest highway tires

Why would anyone want a tire that wears out 3 times faster??

60,000 mileage warranty
for both T & H rated
https://www.webtiredealers.com/tires...ed_quatrac.htm

I just ordered 4 in original VX tire size 165/70/13

[trollbait]

Manufacturers are required to provide a wear number. They are not required to use a standardized test to produce this number. So manufacturer A can be using a different test than B. Which allows comparisons between tires within a brand, but is useless between brands.

[theholycow]

Good point. In practice, however, it seems that most of the time they are still useful for comparing across brand. 400+ almost always means a tire that's good for a lot of miles.

I don't know that I've seen many with 500-600 ratings.