EPA "Combined" number

[BeeUU]

If the EPA site does not list a "combined" number, what is the offical method of calculating a combined number?

Thanks

[LxMike]

for the jetta it's 26 mpg

[MetroMPG]

I think it's a weighted average of 45% city 55% hwy.

[MetroMPG]

I got that backwards: it's 55 city / 45 hwy.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/info.shtml

[zpiloto]

The combined number is there.

The easy way is in the garage on the "add garage entry" link look for the EPA's web page link. Once you navigate to your year and model. Click on the name of your car just above the picture and it will give you the combined total. If everyone does this it will add to the consistancy.

[ELF]

Originally Posted by zpiloto

The combined number is there. )

Ahh your right, had to do some searching to find it. I updated mine. I had just guessed halfway between hwy and citi.

[BeeUU]

Many Thanks everyone!!!!

[CO ZX2]

Originally Posted by zpiloto

The combined number is there.

The easy way is in the garage on the "add garage entry" link look for the EPA's web page link. Once you navigate to your year and model. Click on the name of your car just above the picture and it will give you the combined total. If everyone does this it will add to the consistancy.

It is not very clear on the EPA site how to find combined. Your directions are all that got me to it. I corrected 'Old Reliable' yesterday 26.8 to 28. Thanks.

[DaX]

Any idea where I can find EPA values for the Beat?

They quote 27.0 km/L @ 60 km/h - this comes out to 63.5 US MPG. I don't understand, but they also list a separate figure for "10 mode" (what is this?) of 17.2 km/L - which comes to 40.5 US MPG.

Do you think that's City vs. Highway? If so, I'll use that and calculate a "combined" figure based on the 55/45 rule.

[omgwtfbyobbq]

That should be Japanese 10/15 mode, and is shown here. It seems to be the equivalent of the US combined cycle, although it's very different. The Japanese 10 mode, which I'm guessing is the equivalent of the US city cycle, has way more idling, but not as many abrupt stops and starts, while the 15 mode has a minute of idling, and a couple minutes of consistent driving at ~35mph. Now, supposedly, a 2005 Prius gets ~33km/L=~80mpg on the 10-15 cycle, but only ~55mpg on the EPA's cycle, so there's a pretty big difference between the two cycles. I suppose you could go look up a bunch of different cars, and find the average difference in mileage between the 10/15 and EPA cycles, but really, I don't think it matters much. Maybe Matt could put in an option for different cycles, gallons, and fuel economy measurements?

[cfg83]

omgwtfbyobbq -

Originally Posted by omgwtfbyobbq

That should be Japanese 10/15 mode, and is shown here. It seems to be the equivalent of the US combined cycle, although it's very different. The Japanese 10 mode, which I'm guessing is the equivalent of the US city cycle, has way more idling, but not as many abrupt stops and starts, while the 15 mode has a minute of idling, and a couple minutes of consistent driving at ~35mph. Now, supposedly, a 2005 Prius gets ~33km/L=~80mpg on the 10-15 cycle, but only ~55mpg on the EPA's cycle, so there's a pretty big difference between the two cycles. I suppose you could go look up a bunch of different cars, and find the average difference in mileage between the 10/15 and EPA cycles, but really, I don't think it matters much. Maybe Matt could put in an option for different cycles, gallons, and fuel economy measurements?

I like the "Emission sample collected in bag" statement in the picture. Sounds like they're getting a stool sample to take to the Veterinarian.

I would think that the Honda Beat club sites would have this info somewhere "in the bowels of their site", so to speak.

CarloSW2

[DaX]

Originally Posted by cfg83

I would think that the Honda Beat club sites would have this info somewhere "in the bowels of their site", so to speak.

CarloSW2

I'm currently wading through all the archives when time permits...over halfway through!

I got a small bit of flak when asking about the mileage of the car. Some members seemed to think driving FE consciously in this car goes against it's spirit. I must admit, it is fun to punch it up to 8,000 RPM!

[omgwtfbyobbq]

Originally Posted by cfg83

I like the "Emission sample collected in bag" statement in the picture. Sounds like they're getting a stool sample to take to the Veterinarian.

I seriously wonder how they do that... It must be a real big bag, or permit everything except pollutants.

[swng]

Originally Posted by zpiloto

The combined number is there.

The easy way is in the garage on the "add garage entry" link look for the EPA's web page link. Once you navigate to your year and model. Click on the name of your car just above the picture and it will give you the combined total. If everyone does this it will add to the consistancy.

Just done that for my Yaris. Thanks!