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Old 09-26-2007, 12:52 PM   #1
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Question Maximum tire pressure

What maximum pressure I can pump in my tires if maximum tires pressure is only 35 PSI ?
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:02 PM   #2
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You can have 50 PSI in there without any problems I think. At least i don't have any probs doing that and my sidewalls say 35 max also
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:17 PM   #3
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I can't tell you. I have been running 55 for about a year and I haven't encountered any problem's. Mine are rated 35 max. Choose your own course. Personally I'm thinking about trying 65, just to see if their is any further improvement.
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:32 PM   #4
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does 20psi more really do anything other than give you a rough ride?

does the gas saved outweigh the cost of the excess tire wear?

just curious.....
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:41 PM   #5
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Well, so far as I can determine, it does. It seemed to me like I didn't start seeing that noticable an improvement, until I got to 50 psi. However, I was impressed enough, when I went to 55, that I quit fiddling with it and I never really went back to try to document it.

As far as a rougher ride, it does give a more harsh ride. That's the primary reason that I'm only doing it on the car I am driving, so's I don't get no grief.

As far as tire wear, I think that if anything the tires are lasting longer than normal. As far as abnormal wear, the only thing I've seen is when I got down to the last 1/32, then I could see that the middle was wearing slightly faster than the sides. Since it was well past the short side, as far as rain and stuff, I really figured it was begging the question, at that point.

That's been my experience.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:32 AM   #6
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I run 50 psi in mine like I posted before but about the rougher handling: I really don't notice a rougher ride, buit what I do notice is that it almost gives you a feeling of power steering because the contact surface is smaller. I have also not noticed anything out of the normal as far as going around corners and such goes.
Tire wear: it's too early to tell yet. I have driven like 3000 miles with these tires and sofar don't see abnormal wear patterns.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:02 AM   #7
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Mine say 44 max, and I run at 40. If I were you I wouldn't go much above that 35. Of course a decent tire will usually take much more that whats its rated for. If the tire explodes, it was too much. It also depends on your driving, and mostly the condition of the roads you have to drive on. Crappy roads and really high pressure doesn't sound like a good combo to me. Lots of highway driving would probably allow you to go higher. I was told by a friend ,he used to race auto cross, that newer tires tread wear is not affected as much as older tires were by pressure changes. And they changed pressure all the time, but usually in the other direction. So what I did was to look at my recommended pressure 29, which was with 35psi max tires. and when I got 44 psi max tires, I figured they were made for more PSI, so I added 9 psi (difference between new and old tires MAX pressure) to the recommended 29 psi and ran them 1 psi lower than that BEFORE I started driving for max FE. Wich if I havent confused you with my math, was 37 PSI. Once I started driving for FE, I went to a conserative 3 psi above that 40 PSI and havend has any problems so far with tires that are near the end of thier service life anyways. As always, YMMV!!
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:20 PM   #8
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My tires are rated for 80 psig, but I keep them at 90.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:57 PM   #9
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http://www.officer.com/article/artic...on=19&id=27281

I know of a guy in northern IL that has just over 85K miles on his '05 Accord and he still has the original tires. He runs them at 60 psi or more.
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I think it's much better coming from a professional safety type authoritative figure. That is, better for the rest of the public to believe us
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:56 PM   #11
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What maximum pressure I can pump in my tires if maximum tires pressure is only 35 PSI ?
IMHO any pressure (from your car rated pressure) up to your tire sidewall pressure (in your case 35psi) should be totally "safe" (except for any issues relating to the harsher ride from higher psi). In fact, higher pressure (as long as it's not too high) should actually lower the risk of tire damage/blowouts (due to the higher pressure helping the tires to keep their shape).

Of course, since most tires have a considerable "safety margin" built into their maximum pressure ratings, you are probably OK going considerably above the sidewall pressure, as long as you don't get too carried away (for example, 50psi could easily work OK in your case). However, whenever you go beyond the max rated tire psi, you are "on your own" as it were.

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I personally have 44psi rated tires on my CRX, and I have run them most of their life at (so far around 19,000 miles) at around 42psi (2psi under the sidewall max rating). And so far I've had good results with that setup, with no indication (at least no visible indication) that I've got any premature wear.

However, when I recently had them balanced and rotated, the guy at the tire store was really surprised that I wanted 42psi, and asked me if I was really SURE I wanted that high of pressure. He then told me that was very high pressure for such a small car, and that I am risking "blowing out my centers". However, he did go ahead with my wishes, after I confirmed that I really was sure I wanted that high of pressure.

Of course, despite the warning from the tire guy, I'm really not going to worry about what I'm doing. After all, if there was going to be significant (abnormal) wear in the tire centers, I think it would have become obvious by now (since I've already run the tires over 1/4 of their rated lifetime at that higher pressure). So (since the tire wear still looks fine) IMHO at worst the tire tread (center) may die a few thousand miles before it otherwise would (and I can live with that, if it happens). But OTOH I've also heard that higher tire pressure can sometimes help the tires wear more evenly. So it could also go the other way, and I may get extra life from my tires, due to the higher pressure. And in either case, I think the higher tire pressure helps my FE, and it clearly helps my rolling distance when I'm coasting...
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:54 PM   #12
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Ive seen cars with 35psi tires come into our shop and they peg the tire inflators, which go up to 120psi . Crazzzy peoples...
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #13
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holypaulie -

I just found this :

CLICK & CLACK : Inflation Effect - Sunday, September 30, 2007; Page G02
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092900659.html
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I was driving from Flagstaff, Ariz., to Tucson, and the tread blew off the front driver's side tire. The tire guy tested the pressure and said someone must have put air in the tire. But it had been several months since any service. Can altitude, barometric pressure, heat or speed affect the tire? -- Bryan

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A TOM: You're a lucky guy, Bryan. Often, when one of the belts blows off, the whole tire comes apart. Including the air. And at highway speed, that can be extremely exciting!

RAY: Overinflation probably had nothing to do with this. It had more to do with the age and condition of your tires.

TOM: To get more details, we checked with the Quincy, M.E. of the tire world, Bill Woehrle.

RAY: Bill spent his career as a tire engineer and now runs a company called TFI: Tire Forensics Investigation.

TOM: Bill says overinflation almost never causes tire failure. The standard tire is inflated to about 30 to 35 pounds per square inch. In hot weather and highway conditions, the temperature inside the tire rises about 50 degrees. That increases the pressure about 5 psi. The burst pressure is about 200 psi. So unless you had your tires pumped up to 195 psi, you didn't come anywhere near bursting the tire from too much pressure.

RAY: Bill says the most vulnerable part of any steel-belted radial tire is where the belts are attached to the rubber near the edges of the tread. If the tire isn't abused, those belts should stay attached for the entire tread life.
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TOM: But if the tire is defective, is at the end of its useful life or has been abused in some way, the top belt can separate. When it tears, it tears violently, so it's a crapshoot as to whether the next layer of rubber will tear too and cause a blowout.

RAY: And the most common form of abuse is under-inflating your tires.

TOM: Let's go back to our forensic tireologist. Woehrle says underinflation puts additional stress on the tire's shoulders, where the belts are attached. And if a tire is underinflated by 10 or 15 psi, the temperature at those shoulders can reach 200 degrees. So you've got a vulnerable part of the rubber that's hot being stretched and pulled, and that's a recipe for tire failure.

RAY: So for all of our readers: Make sure your tires have sufficient tread and have not exceeded the manufacturer's mileage rating. Make sure they're less than 10 years old (because old rubber gets brittle and has a greater tendency to crack). And check your tire pressure at least once a month to make sure your tires aren't underinflated.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:25 AM   #14
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I kind of feel like there should be a disclamer on pages like this, the max presure listed on your tires states 35psi, if you go past that you are then going past the stated design presure of that product, when you go beyond the design limits like that you put your self and your vehicle at risk and you should be aware of that insted of simply going at it blindly, learn how to moniter your tires for stress, wear and damage, and if you notice that it's creating a problem then lower the presure!
I have tires that are rated at 44psi ran 50psi for about 15,000 miles and have run over debree with one of the tires 3 times, leading me to use tires plugs in the holes without much issue other then possibly putting the tires out of ballence.
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