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Old 11-28-2007, 02:49 PM   #1
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Disabling the EGR

I've read of disabling the EGR system on deisels here to increase fuel economy, and I just saw in recommended on another site for a gasser.

How does this help out with FE?
What happens to emmissions when the EGR is disabled?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:51 PM   #2
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Won't help much if at all for a gasser unless it's a very old or malfunctioning system. It doesn't even help w/ some diesels since the manufacturer will just pull timing to reduce emissions IIRC...
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:06 PM   #3
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Unless you have a way of tricking the ECU, you'll get the check engine light on if you remove the EGR. Its not always a simple thing to do. As for the mileage, I don't think you'll see much of an increase at all.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:53 PM   #4
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well mine musta been messed up cuz i puleld ti and instantly got 4 more mpg...and yes the CEL light is on...but doesnt affect anything(obd1 system)
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:04 PM   #5
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Emissions will go to crap.... And by crap, I mean more deadly.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:13 PM   #6
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Emissions will go to crap.... And by crap, I mean more deadly.
i dunno i cough alot if i get a good whiff of my cars fumes...no egr no cat, full carbed... gets suckedinto the cabin from somewhere if i have the window cracked..
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:40 PM   #7
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How does removing the EGR increase economy?

One of the reasons behind EGR being in an engine is that it helps economy at part throttle by lowering manifold vacuum a few inches and reduces pumping losses on the freeway and putting around town. Helping emissions is also what it does but it plays a role in what this whole forum is about.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:41 PM   #8
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i dunno i cough alot if i get a good whiff of my cars fumes...no egr no cat, full carbed... gets suckedinto the cabin from somewhere if i have the window cracked..
I was mostly referring to the long term health effects...

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Old 11-28-2007, 06:21 PM   #9
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You guys would be surprised by how infrequently the EGR is used. It only opens during specific throttle ranges and is almost always during highway use.

A lot of the 240sx guys would remove the EGR and install a block-off plate in an attempt to achieve better performance. It's just not open enough to make that big of a difference.

Of course, this may be false in reference to diesels. I'm not sure. However, I do believe it's illegal to tamper with emissions controls, so that'd be another deterrent.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:45 AM   #10
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lol illegal smegal. what they cant see they dont know...

yea i took my trucks off and cut a steel plate and bolted that down. the chevettes is still there, just been plugged.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:46 AM   #11
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When the EGR system on my swift gets plugged with carbon as has happened twice since I've owned the car, the engine pings, power and fuel mileage go down. Makes a big difference on the 1.3 SOHC Swift.

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