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Old 04-08-2006, 12:16 PM   #1
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one this to help with their shift speeds? The throw in my mom's camry is a bit of a pain in the *** when you're accelerating lightly, and the short shifter is only like 10 shipped for my c...

Has anyone done this to help with their shift speeds? The throw in my mom's camry is a bit of a pain in the *** when you're accelerating lightly, and the short shifter is only like 10 shipped for my car, so I've been considering it so I could slap it in before I slapped the whole linkage in.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:53 PM   #2
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i like mine, the install was

i like mine, the install was cake, and you could probably put it on your linkage before you even install it.

just make sure you get one that your sure you will like(dual/single/no bend) i got the dual bend and im happy with it. its not for everyone though, my gf doesnt like the way it feels. too notchy for her, but thats also cus i threw in the stabilizer bushings with it so its very much like a rifle bolt.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:55 PM   #3
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I still don't understand the

I still don't understand the difference between them, to be honest. I thought it was just that the dual bend sat back further.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:07 PM   #4
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my friend had a 86 lude, and

my friend had a 86 lude, and before it got trashed I took the knob and put it in my civic...

looks so much better but i think the real difference is you have to reach lower to shift imo
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:09 PM   #5
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Yep, that's been the

Yep, that's been the arugament made before. If I was ever going to get into some serious racing I would get a truck driver shifter, they are awesome, but if I'm going to shift through the gears in a few seconds and very close together I'm going to end up leaving my hand on the shifter.
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Old 04-08-2006, 09:54 PM   #6
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i find if you shift way too

i find if you shift way too fast than what the syncros can handle then it won't be a smooth shift at all.
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:03 PM   #7
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Well, duh, but I don't think

Well, duh, but I don't think I'd be able to shift fast enough even with a short shifter. You'd really have to rocket it to do that. I plan on being calm about my shifting, just reducing the throw.
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:40 PM   #8
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A true short shifter will

A true short shifter will have more lenght on the shifter below the pivot, therefore a shorter throw is required to move the shift rod the same distance. Simple trig . Only problem is that it can misalign the shift rod and cause mis-shifts. To me, a properly designed short shifter would move the pivot point up to keep the shift rod alignment.
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:42 PM   #9
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Would not that be a

Would not that be a difficult feat to achieve unless one were willing to go beyond a simple bolt-in affair?
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:44 PM   #10
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Yes it would, which is why

Yes it would, which is why most companies just sell their shifters with more length below the pivot and not moving the pivot up.

Honda actually has it right, moving to a more efficient cable shifter mechanism in their later model cars.
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Old 04-09-2006, 02:47 PM   #11
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The 2005 civic I drove

The 2005 civic I drove shifter like butter, I almost drooled driving that thing around.
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:06 PM   #12
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When I went to the 2006 car

When I went to the 2006 car in pittsburgh I think the audi/VWs had the smoothest shifters. Alot of the sports cars have really stiff (Precision) shifters, like the WRX sti.
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Old 04-09-2006, 05:08 PM   #13
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****! Why do I always hit

****! Why do I always hit back, screw my comment altogether.
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:59 PM   #14
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Re: The 2005 civic I drove

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The 2005 civic I drove shifter like butter, I almost drooled driving that thing around.
damn i want better, its not butterery enough... more lazy syncos please.
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