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Old 05-24-2008, 01:05 AM   #1
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I've never been more proud of my Geo Metro

Metro Pride is in the Air

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Old 05-24-2008, 01:50 AM   #2
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:46 AM   #3
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you would think with news like this, chevrolet would come back out with the metro or at least a comperable car (aveo doesn't count)

I had two metros, one of whcih with the 3cyl. loved that car
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:27 AM   #4
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GO METROS!!!

If my wife would of listened to me and took my advice of "the car isn't costing me anything, let me put it in the garage - pull the tags and forget about it" . I'd have my old Metro on eBay this week getting a tad more than the $1,600 it sold for a year ago. Finally, the Metro owners are getting the respect they deserve instead being the butt of all jokes. When people think of crappy car the Metro seems to be synonymous.
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Old 05-24-2008, 11:05 AM   #5
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Mark my words - the Geo Metro will start selling over its original price tag by 2010.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:28 PM   #6
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Mark my words - the Geo Metro will start selling over its original price tag by 2010.
You didn't read the article?
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:09 PM   #7
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Yes, I read it. The record-setting Metro sold for $7300, it was $9000 new.

Same with CRXs - they are about $1000 more than they were in February.
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Old 05-24-2008, 02:09 PM   #8
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I wouldn't trade my VX for any new Honda they make.

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Old 05-24-2008, 03:33 PM   #9
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My metro recently died.Im so so sad...and broke!

I went from 55mpg to 18 overnight.
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Old 05-24-2008, 04:06 PM   #10
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are the festivas compareable to the metros mpg wise? personally i like the festivas looks more than the geos...
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:59 PM   #11
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:54 PM   #12
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This solidifies my $200 purchase for my 96 Metro restoration project!!!

Can't wait to get her running!
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:56 PM   #13
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This solidifies my $200 purchase for my 96 Metro restoration project!!!

Can't wait to get her running!
Ah...another $200 Metro...there's still hope. (Casting eyes about for another Metro in need of "TLC"...)
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:14 AM   #14
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are the festivas compareable to the metros mpg wise? personally i like the festivas looks more than the geos...
not even close. But swap in a D15z1 and you'll be doing just fine in that Festiva.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:39 AM   #15
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really? i woulda thought they would be comparable to the 4 banger manual tranny metros...
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:49 AM   #16
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are the festivas compareable to the metros mpg wise? personally i like the festivas looks more than the geos...
See my sig. That's a combined average not the highest or the lowest. My tires are only inflated to 35 psi as well. I'd probably do better if I inflated them to the max like some people here do, but I just don't care for the ride at the higher pressures.


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not even close. But swap in a D15z1 and you'll be doing just fine in that Festiva.


Looking at the geo owned by the OP, my festiva is doing better and the only mod I have is a Crane Cams ignition system that I had on hand and decided to use. I am running Amsoil Signature series 0-30 and double platinum spark plugs, but that's it.

The OP has his tires inflated to 65 psi whereas mine are running at 35 psi. The OP would appear to have ripped out as much as possible to get better MPG, while everything that came with my Festiva is in the Festiva.

That's not to knock the OP or his geo, but the festiva (at least in my case) is putting up better mpg's on average than the Geo owned by the OP, even when I had approx. 300 lbs extra weight in my vehicle over the usual two people and had tackled a trip from sea level up 800+ meters.

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well I know the stock Festiva Epa numbers are considerably less than the metro or VX. The Metro is rated at 43/51 and the Festiva is rated at 30/37, so that's what I was basing on.

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really? i woulda thought they would be comparable to the 4 banger manual tranny metros...
The Metros that are notorious for great FE are 3 cylinder, not 4.
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:42 PM   #19
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I'd probably do better if I inflated them to the max like some people here do, but I just don't care for the ride at the higher pressures.
I'm not sure that more inflation would help you. Nobody promotes increased inflation more than I do, but I suspect that beyond the point of acceptable comfort doesn't provide any useful improvement -- and certainly nothing worth ill handling tires that won't leave you safely able to maneuver. Inflate them to just under the point where they're uncomfortable.

For me the limiting factor tends to be the maximum pressure of the tires, but I tend to drive relatively heavy vehicles even when I'm driving a small FE car.
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well I know the stock Festiva Epa numbers are considerably less than the metro or VX. The Metro is rated at 43/51 and the Festiva is rated at 30/37, so that's what I was basing on.
I can see that then. The EPA for the Geo is certainly higher than the EPA for the Festiva. I've been pretty happy with the fact that I'm getting about 24% better mpg than the sticker said I should and am really only using the basic hypermiler techniques 40mpg is an easy reality for me at this point. The Festiva sure beats the hell out of my Liberty, just not in the comfort area.
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well I know the stock Festiva Epa numbers are considerably less than the metro or VX. The Metro is rated at 43/51 and the Festiva is rated at 30/37, so that's what I was basing on.



The Metros that are notorious for great FE are 3 cylinder, not 4.
yea i knew the 3 cyl got better than the 4 cyl (no duh right ) but i knew the festiva only have with a 4 banger so i wanted to compare it to something equal (hence the 4 cyl metro)

i dunno i like the little boxy look of the festiva more than the "jelly bean" look of the geos
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That's really quite something! I personally dig the 4 door geo look. or the early boxier geo's
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yea i knew the 3 cyl got better than the 4 cyl (no duh right ) but i knew the festiva only have with a 4 banger so i wanted to compare it to something equal (hence the 4 cyl metro)

i dunno i like the little boxy look of the festiva more than the "jelly bean" look of the geos
The OP has a 3 cyl. as well. I suspect that there may be something wrong with it.


I used to own an '89 Chev Sprint (same poop, different pile as a geo), but I didn't keep records of the mileage. I drove the hell out of it too. It just wouldn't die until the door posts rotted to the point where the door was going to fall off. I sold it for $500 when it had 250K km's to a friend who was a body man. He fixed it up and drove it until a hole opened up on the floor at approx. 340K km's. If it wasn't for the body, it'd still be going. Either way, he sold it for $350.
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