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Old 05-21-2006, 07:09 PM   #1
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Aveo trip report

So Me and my Dad drove to rockport, Illinois.


The car: Stock 2005 Aveo 5speed Hatchback with 15,000 miles on it
Tire PSI: 40 (non studded snow tires on still on front)
Speed: 70-75mph @ 3200rpm
MPG: 1,302 miles @ 36.2 Gallons = 36MPG
Weight of passangers+luggage: 400lbs
Temp: 60s-70s

Aerodynamics and gearing seem to be a problem at highway speeds for the aveo. We still ended up beating the EPA of 35mpg. It would of been better at 65mph. I drove for 40% of the time and there was some traffic around chicago.
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:33 PM   #2
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Good test. What did you think of the car overall? I liked the handling and ergonomics.

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Old 05-21-2006, 08:34 PM   #3
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Eww, get out of here rick.

Anyway, I'm glad you beat the epa, even going that fast,
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Old 05-21-2006, 09:13 PM   #4
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The seats arn't that great. The whole car is nothing amazing, but gets the job done. I told my dad not to buy the car because It will be worth nothing in 5 years. I would buy one if I could get one cheap.

Chevy Aveo in 5 years $3,000ish
Honda Fit in 5 years $9,000ish

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Old 05-21-2006, 09:43 PM   #5
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Aerodynamics and gearing seem to be a problem at highway speeds for the aveo. We still ended up beating the EPA of 35mpg
. Does it have a tach? What kind of RPM's are you doing at 65 MPH. Being from south Texas don't know anything about snow tires. What kind of affect on FE do you think they have?
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:26 AM   #6
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Rpms were 3100 at 70mph. The snow tires were only on the front so it only cost 1mpg or so.
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:02 AM   #7
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Sorry, missed the RPM in the first post. So that would work out to 37 MPG minus the snow tires loaded down with stuff. By today standards on a stock car that's not that bad. Just imagine if they put a final drive where the RPM were 2500 at 70 MPH. Nice report. Thanks
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:51 AM   #8
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my xB turns 3300 at 65mph give or take a few MPH and I needed the RPM yesterday while hauling 4 people into headwinds. Oh I got 36mpg doing that - tail winds got me 39 going out to the cape. Highway 60-65mph.

Also pulled a 3 inch nail out of my left rear and plugged it but it has a bump now - will be gettting an inside patch and checking the tread. 4300 miles on new tires grrrrrrr damn carpenters dropping old nails in the street!
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my xB turns 3300 at 65mph give or take a few MPH and I needed the RPM yesterday while hauling 4 people into headwinds. Oh I got 36mpg doing that - tail winds got me 39 going out to the cape. Highway 60-65mph.

Also pulled a 3 inch nail out of my left rear and plugged it but it has a bump now - will be gettting an inside patch and checking the tread. 4300 miles on new tires grrrrrrr damn carpenters dropping old nails in the street!
I find that gutters distribute more nails than anything else. Storm drains seem to distribute them everywhere.
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my xB turns 3300 at 65mph give or take a few MPH and I needed the RPM yesterday while hauling 4 people into headwinds. Oh I got 36mpg doing that - tail winds got me 39 going out to the cape. Highway 60-65mph.

Also pulled a 3 inch nail out of my left rear and plugged it but it has a bump now - will be gettting an inside patch and checking the tread. 4300 miles on new tires grrrrrrr damn carpenters dropping old nails in the street!
Now there's a curiosity:

The Aveo is rounded and more aerodynamic than the brick-shaped xB.
The Aveo is considerbly lighter than the xB.
The Aveo is geared lower than the xB in top gear.
The engines are very close in size, 1.5-1.6 liters.

Why does the xB beat the Aveo?
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Old 02-08-2007, 03:20 PM   #11
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The 2005 Aveo has a .35 Cd, the same as the Scion Xb. The Aveo has a frontal area about 20.5 square feet, while the Xb about 23.5 square feet(Estimated from width times height times .8).

The 2005 Aveo has a curb weight about 2,350 lbs, while the Scion Xb about 2,400 lbs. Not much difference there.

I'd chalk the small differences up to the speed at which the vehicles were driven and to Toyota's engines being slightly more efficient.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:18 PM   #12
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Now there's a curiosity:

The Aveo is rounded and more aerodynamic than the brick-shaped xB.
The Aveo is considerbly lighter than the xB.
The Aveo is geared lower than the xB in top gear.
The engines are very close in size, 1.5-1.6 liters.

Why does the xB beat the Aveo?
Better engineering woot woot.

The Aveo is supposed to get 1 more highway mpg than the Xb. It looses this advantage around town by a surprising 4 epa mpg



DOH, that is supposed to be 34 highway mpg for the xb
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