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05-23-2006, 10:06 PM
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ECO-Driver
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Side fairing
I had some colorplast left over from my belly pan so I though that I would put some side fairing on with some of the leftover. It just attaches to the frame with four bolts. Flaired at both ends about 2" still not enough to go outside the wheels I'll need to work on that. they extend down to 3" above ground. I have not had any problems with hitting anything yet. Have not tested yet but the initial drives look good and there is a noticable difference in coast down from speeds above 45MPH down to about 35MPH. Next need to work on rear skirts and front fairings.
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05-23-2006, 11:50 PM
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looking good
Did you post up the belly pan pictures? Good paint on those wheel covers 
Looking good, I need some colorplast!
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05-24-2006, 09:43 AM
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How did you fill in the holes on the hubcaps?
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05-24-2006, 04:06 PM
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ECO-Driver
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Did you post up the belly pan pictures
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No sorry didn't have the technology then.  Thanks for the suggestion for painting them. I also have chrome paint but the white's kinda growing on me.
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How did you fill in the holes on the hubcaps?
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05-24-2006, 07:57 PM
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paint
Stick with the white, It looks great! Makes me want to move back to steelies...almost.
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05-27-2006, 12:02 AM
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Now you need a front air dam for the true benefits of side skirts to be realized. A custom boat-tail and/or a tapered roof spoiler wouldn't hurt either.
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05-27-2006, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Toecutter
Now you need a front air dam for the true benefits of side skirts to be realized. A custom boat-tail and/or a tapered roof spoiler wouldn't hurt either.
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when playing around with new cars prices, i notice the option for side skirts is usually 300 bucks. So what your saying the option can be worth it if you drive a lot of highway miles? Or coast a lot?
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05-27-2006, 08:14 AM
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ECO-Driver
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Originally Posted by The Toecutter
Now you need a front air dam for the true benefits of side skirts to be realized. A custom boat-tail and/or a tapered roof spoiler wouldn't hurt either.
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I been thinking about the airdam. I've got a 2 inch extension on the front but was thinking about some kinda of rubber to extend it down to 3 inches above the ground. Just have'nt come up with material that will be stiff enough yet won't break when it hit something. |
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05-27-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by zpiloto
I been thinking about the airdam. I've got a 2 inch extension on the front but was thinking about some kinda of rubber to extend it down to 3 inches above the ground. Just have'nt come up with material that will be stiff enough yet won't break when it hit something.
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A lot of people use that rubber garden edging. It's cheap and easy to cut.
Is your airdam, like most, that doesn't cover the front tires? I know in racing the tires cause a lot of drag, aerodynamically. |
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05-27-2006, 11:16 AM
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*shrug*
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You can use the garden stuff, or for a bit cleaner of a look use stuff I can only describe as carpet molding/lining stuff.
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05-28-2006, 03:37 PM
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Well I went with the garden stuff and wrapped it around from the front of the wheel well (to cover the wheels) on each side and had it stop 4" from the ground. Went out and did a quick test on a 8 mile north south run with cruise control set at 60. Wind was out of the south at 12 MPH and the temp was 90 degrees.
Water coolant temp was 10 cooler(184 instead of 195). It actually decrease my FE I think that the excess drag does not make up for the reduced airflow under the car.
Air Dam 42.6 37.9 AVG 40.25
Without 42.7 38.8 AVG 40.75
Although this was just two run the runs into the wind showed a big decrease. The runs with the wind about the same but the equivalent speed would of been 48 and 72 respectively.
So no air dam for me.
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05-28-2006, 09:30 PM
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air dam
They do add a bunch of frontal area. I would say they are more for looks on cars. I dont know if one test is worth trashing the idea though.
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05-28-2006, 09:59 PM
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a poorly designed lip or air damn will increase the frontal area.
the well designed lips stop air from getting under then car but only to a small extent(the lowest point of the underbody). all of the honda oem lips do this and then go down further in front of the tires to smoothly direct air away from them.
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05-29-2006, 09:29 AM
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Is the air-dam straight across? If so maybe bring the center out towards the front of the car so it's more of a V, might cut some of the drag.
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07-27-2006, 11:20 AM
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Ben,
What stores have you seen the " carpet molding/lining stuff." I think I know what you are talking about but where to purchase it?
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02-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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Yeah! I'm actually going to try to put on an air dam tommorow with sheet metal, and I think that "v" idea would/could also give it strength. Still trying to figure something out tho: Since my car is 7 inches off the ground, how low and how wide would the dam need to be to be most affective!?
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Is the air-dam straight across? If so maybe bring the center out towards the front of the car so it's more of a V, might cut some of the drag.
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02-10-2007, 02:46 AM
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I remember Phil Knox saying a 3" ground clearance is ideal for a road car.
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02-10-2007, 10:32 AM
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I remember Phil Knox saying a 3" ground clearance is ideal for a road car.
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not in america
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02-11-2007, 03:18 AM
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True. Most roads in the US aren't suitable for that ground clearance. But if you want optimized aerodynamics, above all else...
I am planning on lowering my Triumph to a 3" ride height. Just have to be diligent to avoid any curbs, potholes, or road debris, and be very careful around speed bumps. I recall that stock, he Mk I and II have a 4" ground clearance, the III a 5" clearance.
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02-12-2007, 01:36 PM
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3" to the bottom of the frame??? That will be quite an adventure - you'd get high-centered driving around here. The short wheelbase of a Triumph will help, but I have a '77 Camaro and I'll scrape my exhaust going in/out of some parking lots. The exhaust has about 4-4.5" clearance.
Regarding side-skirt placement, would it be better to push the skirts out to where the outer edge of the wheel is, or just wherever is convenient?
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02-17-2007, 12:02 PM
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3" to the bottom of the frame??? That will be quite an adventure - you'd get high-centered driving around here. The short wheelbase of a Triumph will help, but I have a '77 Camaro and I'll scrape my exhaust going in/out of some parking lots. The exhaust has about 4-4.5" clearance.
Regarding side-skirt placement, would it be better to push the skirts out to where the outer edge of the wheel is, or just wherever is convenient?
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They have quite a long over hang on the rear behind the wheels correct? I've driven my fair share of lowered vehicles, and yes you do drag bottom on gravel roads, but if you drive on one side of the crest it's fine. I've never had problems with hitting the ground.
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02-17-2007, 11:22 PM
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They have quite a long over hang on the rear behind the wheels correct? I've driven my fair share of lowered vehicles, and yes you do drag bottom on gravel roads, but if you drive on one side of the crest it's fine. I've never had problems with hitting the ground.
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No, not an especially long overhang but longer than most compact cars. The exhaust will scrape in the middle of the car though. Alot of it is the way they make curb-cuts around here like a big mound so when the car is partway out of the parking lot, you are sitting with both tires on either side of a large hump.
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